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A Very Real Terror Threat - EMP
CBN.com ^ | Erick Stakelbeck

Posted on 04/24/2006 6:15:59 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

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It would also effect gasoline, natural gas, heating oil, because it requires electricity to pump these fuels into your fuel tanks and into your house. That means all transportation will cease. Without transportation there will be no more food, clothing, entertainment, heat, air conditioning, lights, anywhere in the United States. How long can a country last without these things? AND for the yung'ins: NO MORE COMPUTOR GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 posted on 04/24/2006 6:16:02 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Weldon has been all over this for several years. It is a real threat..and needs far less 'tech' to make it a reality. That said, I think we have a more measures to thwart or otherwise protect against EMP measures than disclosed publicly. Nevertheless, interested folks should read up.


2 posted on 04/24/2006 6:22:00 PM PDT by SueRae
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To: Iam1ru1-2

They're on it...

3 posted on 04/24/2006 6:22:11 PM PDT by edpc
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To: Iam1ru1-2

I feel so much better now.


4 posted on 04/24/2006 6:25:16 PM PDT by Just Lori (To everything, there is a season.........Ecclesiastes, 3:1-8)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

No!!!! What would I do without my Civilization III?

Seriously, though, I don't see why this isn't publicized more. It's scary to know that the entire country could be plunged into darkness with a single nuclear attack.


5 posted on 04/24/2006 6:25:18 PM PDT by figgers3036
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To: Iam1ru1-2

6 posted on 04/24/2006 6:26:15 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Real Leaders Base Their Decisions on Their Convictions. Wannabes Base Decisions on the Latest Poll.)
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Call it what you will, but when it happens to the U.S. it won't be "just THIS SH*T AGAIN to you or anybody else. It will be stark reality with...........NO IMMEDIATE CURE!!!!


7 posted on 04/24/2006 6:29:54 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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"steps that America can take to defend against an EMP attack, such as developing a credible missile defense system..."

It makes far more sense to put the electrical nodes deep under ground. Also, large backup power facilities that are turned off! EMP only effects active generators and batteries, things that are carrying a current.


8 posted on 04/24/2006 6:29:58 PM PDT by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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"It makes far more sense to put the electrical nodes deep under ground. Also, large backup power facilities that are turned off! EMP only effects active generators and batteries, things that are carrying a current."



Those are probably the only encouraging sentences I've ever seen on this subject.

Do you know a good site that offers advice and solutions for EMP?


9 posted on 04/24/2006 6:43:37 PM PDT by ansel12
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And the answer is:

http://www.fas.org/nuke/intro/nuke/emp.htm

and for your reading pleasure...all about HAARP

http://www.earthpulse.com/src/category.asp?catid=1


10 posted on 04/24/2006 6:51:10 PM PDT by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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Get one old vehicle with points or magneto and leave the battery disconnected. Get a mechanical clock and watch. Keep radios and a cheap phone in heavy steel (ammo) boxes. Keep paper printouts of your statements and contacts. Get a hand-operated drum pump & hose. Don't use electronic gun locks. Don't get a pacemaker.


11 posted on 04/24/2006 6:57:21 PM PDT by polymuser (Losing, like flooding, brings rats to the surface.)
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"steps that America can take to defend against an EMP attack, such as developing a credible missile defense system..."

"It makes far more sense to put the electrical nodes deep under ground. Also, large backup power facilities that are turned off! EMP only effects active generators and batteries, things that are carrying a current."

This is not true.

Pretty much everything with transistors or IC's will be burnt out, whether powered up or not. Electric motors will have their windings burnt out. Switches will be shorted or blown open. It does not even matter if it is plugged in or not.

Putting power under ground will not work if every car, truck, train, or boat is dead and if every appliance in every home is shot.



12 posted on 04/24/2006 7:02:28 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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This seems like just another slightly veiled attack on Rumsfeld.

My question is, would it damage batteries and emergency generators?
13 posted on 04/24/2006 7:02:43 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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"Initially, the plasma from the weapon is slightly conducting; the geomagnetic field cannot penetrate this volume and is displaced as a result. This impulsive distortion of the geomagnetic field was observed worldwide in the case of the STARFISH test. To be sure, the size of the signal from this process is not large, but systems connected to long lines (e.g., power lines, telephone wires, and tracking wire antennas) are at risk because of the large size of the induced current. The additive effects of the MHD-EMP can cause damage to unprotected civilian and military systems that depend on or use long-line cables. Small, isolated, systems tend to be unaffected. "




Does this mean things that aren't connected to the long line cables should be unaffected by a terrorist strike?

Thanks for the links.


14 posted on 04/24/2006 7:04:06 PM PDT by ansel12
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Oops. I take that back. I didn't read it close enough. Rumsfeld would be the hero here.
15 posted on 04/24/2006 7:04:07 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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To: Iam1ru1-2

Remind me how the terrorists are going to get the warhead undetected into ballistic orbit above the USA again?


16 posted on 04/24/2006 7:04:37 PM PDT by Lost Dutchman (You can lead a liberal to knowledge, but you can't make them think)
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All batteries would be neutralized. Generators, if off, would not be effected.

Anything carrying an electrical current would be fried.


17 posted on 04/24/2006 7:05:29 PM PDT by Prost1 (Sandy Berger can steal, Clinton can cheat, but Bush can't listen!)
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To: polymuser

Better yet an old vehicle without points or any ignition system at all, for that matter (a diesel). Make sure it's one with mechanical fuel injection. A spare alternator in a Faraday cage wouldn't hurt. I wish my stepdaughter could take the advice about the pacemaker.


18 posted on 04/24/2006 7:06:18 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Prost1

Gotcha.

Thanks.


19 posted on 04/24/2006 7:06:58 PM PDT by pollyannaish
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Why would the armature coils in the generator's alternator not be affected? Many newer generators have a digital inverter built in which would most certainly be fried.


20 posted on 04/24/2006 7:08:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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