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Evidence of work fraud untapped
Dallas/Ft Worth Star-Telegram ^ | April 23, 2006 | LIZ CHANDLER

Posted on 04/23/2006 8:07:30 AM PDT by AmericaOne

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To: AmericaOne

Where have all the whistle-blowers gone?


41 posted on 04/23/2006 8:31:36 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
PAPER: Millions of people using bogus Social Security numbers...

That is how the link appears on the Drudge Report site.

42 posted on 04/23/2006 8:32:33 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: NewRomeTacitus
It's extremely frustrating to know that all the information is there but the powers that be keep sitting on it.

I agree.

43 posted on 04/23/2006 8:33:36 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: Just mythoughts
Where have all the whistle-blowers gone?

There might be one still around. Maybe that is where this reporter got at least some of her information. She did report on internal "audits" (if that is the right term), showing how the one restaurant chain had over 4,000 employees using bogus or stolen SSN's, along with the child from Utah whose SSN was fraudulently used as employee SSN's over 700 times in 42 states.

44 posted on 04/23/2006 8:37:30 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: AmericaOne
RE: whistle-blowers

The details could just as well have come from Congressional hearings.

Washington knows but simply does not care to act -- or more likely Washington fears to act.

The annual "no match" letters sent out by SSA to the millions of miscreants create a cat 5 fire storm.

Unions and such immigrant "rights" organizations as National Immigration Law Center (NILC) go ballistic -- Administration and Congress critters cringe and run.

The critters fear the wrath and retributions -- could be a suspension of contributions.

The NILC others in the immigrant "rights" industry are supported by

The California Endowment

Ford Foundation

Four Freedoms Fund

Evelyn & Walter Haas, Jr. Fund

Open Society Institute

David & Lucile Packard Foundation

Rockefeller Foundation

Rosenberg Foundation

State Bar of California – Legal Services Trust Fund Program

U.S. Dept. of Justice – Office of Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices.

Big business gives big too and the Washington critters know they won't get their share if Washington makes law breakers beware.

45 posted on 04/23/2006 10:26:43 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: AmericaOne
Scare off the employers and you cut off a main attraction for illegals
to want to come here or stay here.


As G. Gordon Liddy calls it: "the electromagent of jobs" that draws
illegals into the country
46 posted on 04/23/2006 10:29:27 PM PDT by VOA
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To: AmericaOne; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...

Ping!

This broke last year, there was Congressional testimony regarding the 'privacy' issues of the Master Suspense File.

Glad to see it's being reported on again, I wish it was reported on weekly!


47 posted on 04/23/2006 10:54:56 PM PDT by HiJinx (Secure Our Borders ~ Now.)
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To: coloradan
The IRS: An enemy agency. (But you already knew that.)

True, the IRS is the collection agency for the International Bankers,(The Federal Reserve Bank.)

48 posted on 04/23/2006 11:10:53 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: rellimpank

<< With minuscule exceptions ...... >>

Please list three of those?


49 posted on 04/23/2006 11:17:04 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: VOA; AmericaOne; HiJinx; B4Ranch

<< Scare off the employers and you cut off a main attraction for illegals to want to come here or stay here.

As G. Gordon Liddy calls it: "the electromagent of jobs" that draws [Criminal aliens] into the country >>

On this one Mr Liddy is so far off the mark as to be effectively not even hearing let alone answering the question.

The criminal alien invasion is incited, organized, aided, abetted and facilitated, for the purpose of disposessing Americans of ownership of either our country or its government, by the United States feral gummint. Specifically by the activist "Democrats" who comprise more than 90% of the permanent bureaucracy.

Most of the "farm work" done by criminal aliens is directly subsidised, at the cost, annually, of Scores of Billions of Dollars, by the feral gummint and produces the humungous mountains of unwanted and unsaleable agricultural produce of every description that bankrupts friendly nation's farmers and by being dumped by USAID and other redundant agencies has completely wiped several previously net-exporting agrarian countries, Somalia, for example, out of existence.

Most of us, every darned day, meet at least one of the incompetent former workers in a wide variety of low-demand fields who've been displaced by criminal aliens. They now pick up checks for attending at make-work positions created for them by the Post Office, INS/ICE -- or at the DMV.

And the unemployment rate among work-seeking American youth is far in excess of 50%. Criminal aliens have been used to deprive several generations of America's youth of first, after school, part-time and/or college-supporting jobs.


50 posted on 04/23/2006 11:40:04 PM PDT by Brian Allen (How arrogant are we to believe our career political-power-lusting lumpen somehow superior to theirs?)
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To: AmericaOne
I have a feeling you are reading this wrong. (Or I am misinterpreting your points)

Employers are only required to match the name used with the SS#. They are not required, nor do they have the capacity, to check if the name and SS# are being used by someone else somewhere else. That is the purview of the govt.

The fact that the govt. doesn't care that the same SS# is being used in several different places is evidence of two things: A. They know about the problem and want the money. B. They are the entity that is guilty of the ilegal immigration problem and they are allowing it to happen on purpose.

I don't blame the employer who should not be required to do extensive background checks (although some now go so far as to check your credit). We should all be expecting the feds to follow the laws they have written but it means too much money to too many politicians.

51 posted on 04/24/2006 4:36:41 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Looks like both Houses of our Government lack the guts to deal with this problem. Seems the entire DEM party plus 15 REPS think their jobs are in the hands of this group of radicals. How does one break a law and then become legal? Have we lost our minds?


52 posted on 04/24/2006 6:32:35 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Sefton
Isn't identity theft a felony in this country?

Yes it damn sure is.

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Summary of The Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act:

The Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act as outlined by the Library of Congress.

Section two of The Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act - Amends the Federal criminal code to establish penalties for aggravated identity theft. Further it prescribes sentences, to be imposed in addition to the punishments provided for the related felonies. These additional punishments are: 1. Two years' imprisonment for knowingly transferring, possessing, or using, without lawful authority, a means of identification of another person during and in relation to specified felony violations (including theft of public property, theft by a bank officer or employee, theft from employee benefit plans, various fraud and immigration offenses, and false statements regarding Social Security and Medicare benefits)

AND

* Reducing any sentence for the related felony to take into account the sentence imposed for such a violation.

* Providing for concurrent terms of imprisonment for a violation of this Act and a violation under any other Act.

Section three of The Identity Theft Penalty Enhancement Act - Expands the existing identify theft prohibition to cover;

* Possession of a means of identification of another with intent to commit specified unlawful activity.

* Increase penalties for violations to include acts of domestic terrorism within the scope of a prohibition against facilitating an act of international terrorism.


But hey, it is just the cute fuzzy `lil border bunnies that are our economice "miracle" that will save our nation therefor they can march in our streets demanding the vote and ordering us Gringos off the northern continent blah blah blah.

Do we have to hang the lawers first or can we start with the politicans in Congress?

53 posted on 04/24/2006 7:18:18 AM PDT by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, Minuteman Project AZ Day -1 to Day 8, Texas Minutemen El Paso, 32 Days)
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To: AmericaOne
Scare off the employers and you cut off a main attraction for illegals to want to come here or stay here.

The open borders traitors don't want to cut off the main attraction for illegals to come here and stay. Americans have been royally screwed by George Bush, Bill Frist, John McCain, conservative talk show hosts, like Tony Snow who wrote an article in our newspaper calling for citizenship for every illegal here - what a traitor! Along with many others. When greed overtakes one's patriotism, and desire to leave your country better than you found it, there is not much we citizens can do to counter act it. Greed rules!

54 posted on 04/24/2006 7:56:54 AM PDT by swampfox98 (I voted for George Bush and got Vicente Fox. Phooey!)
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To: TLI
Thanks for confirming my thoughts that the laws on the books concerning employers that provide false s.s. numbers are subject to big penalties. C.E.O.'s aren't worried about fines. That they'll just pass on to the consumer. But jail time is another story. The bigger they are, the more they have to loose. They see one of their own taking a trip in orange jumpsuit and cuffs for the same thing they're involved with and it'll scare them to the depths of their soles. I've been thinking about some sort of fund raising for a large reward, with the help of some large radio stations or Lou Dobbs types, say maybe a million or more. It would be offered to whoever provides the information leading to the arrest and conviction of the company's management complicit with identity fraud where the largest number of illegals are rounded up. You have a lot of people from the illegals up to the Human Resource people who will look at a million dollars as a great retirement package. The question is, will the government follow up on the tips provided? You think there's any potential with this?
55 posted on 04/24/2006 7:59:35 AM PDT by Sefton (Don't let the Senate give our country away! Amnesty, No! Enforcement Si!)
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To: swampfox98
The open borders traitors don't want to cut off the main attraction for illegals to come here and stay. Americans have been royally screwed by George Bush, Bill Frist, John McCain, conservative talk show hosts, like Tony Snow who wrote an article in our newspaper calling for citizenship for every illegal here - what a traitor! Along with many others. When greed overtakes one's patriotism, and desire to leave your country better than you found it, there is not much we citizens can do to counter act it. Greed rules!

I couldn't agree more. What conservative radio hosts are signing on to this TREASON? I know Tony Snow and Michael Medved are on the side of the Open Borders Crowd. I'm pretty sure Rush and Hannity are against this sellout. I don't know about the others nationally. This is a very big issue, so I'm sure that those "conservative" radio talk show hosts who back this shamnesty will lose a significant amount of listeners. Maybe in Snow's case, he is just trying to follow the company line so he can ice getting the White House Press Secretary job.

BTW, Tony Snow is a FREEPER, complete with a FREEP Mail Address. His Screen Name is plain old "Tony Snow". You can send him a FREEP mail telling him about your feelings about his position. Since it is a FREEP Mail, he will be sure to read it :-)

56 posted on 04/24/2006 5:41:41 PM PDT by AmericaOne (Borders, Language and Culture - You Don't Have These, You Don't Have A Country)
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To: AmericaOne

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people." - Theodore Roosevelt


57 posted on 04/25/2006 9:31:59 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: All
It ain't just private industry.

The SSA IG report, Department of Defense Wage Items in the Earnings Suspense File (A-03-04-14041), had this:

"Between TYs 1997 through 2002, we found that the DOD components submitted nearly 6,400 wage items representing about $30 million in wages to SSA that were placed in the ESF. . .

"Our analysis of the 6,358 wage items determined that SSA placed these items in the ESF because:

• 59 percent of the reported names and/or SSNs did not match SSA records;

• 28 percent were assigned a special indicator when the NH appeared to be deceased in SSA records, a child who was under the age of 7, or the NH disclaimed the wages; or

• 13 percent were reported with invalid SSNs. . . ."

More..

Suspended and Nonwork Wages in the Social Security Administration’s Payroll (A-03-05-15087)

The Department of Interior’s (DOI) National Business Center (NBC) processes SSA’s payroll through its Federal Personnel Payroll System. Ditto other Federal agencies. SSA has about 64,000 full and part-time employees.

The report states:

"Of the 62,000 employees who worked at SSA during TYs 1999 through 2002, we found 94 employees had wages posted to SSA’s NWALIEN file and ESF. Specifically, 33 employees with about $2.6 million in wages10 had worked during the 4-year period with nonwork SSNs that were assigned in TYs 1974 to 1991. As of July 2005, 17 were current employees whose work-authorization status still appeared to be unauthorized to work in SSA records (whereas the other 16 either had SSNs indicating authorization to work or were no longer working at SSA). In addition, we identified 61 employees, representing about $184,000 in wages,11 whose wages were placed in the ESF because (1) the employees appeared to be deceased in SSA’s records, (2) the employees disclaimed the wages, or (3) the reported names and/or SSNs did not match SSA’s records. . . ."

In other words, the SSA did [does?] not use its own verification system, it seems. One Recommendation of the report was, "Consider using the verification programs as appropriate in the: 1) hiring process to verify employees’ identities and work-authorization status; and 2) wage reporting process to ensure employees receive proper credit for their earnings."

The NWALIEN file and ESF (Earnings Suspense File) contain SSNs issued but prohibit working here and SSNs that do not match SSA's records, respectively.

Why would a SSN not match SSA's records and W-2 earnings data be put into the ESF? I think we all know.

Why would there be SSNs issued (NWALIEN) but no authority to work? Well, the alien just might need a SSN to get some type of public assistance or a drivers license.

58 posted on 04/25/2006 2:27:49 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: swampfox98

Where were the DEMS on the House and Senate Vote? Yes,we know who the 15 REP traitors are.


59 posted on 04/26/2006 4:18:02 PM PDT by Lumper20
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