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Refineries and oil terminals are full, yet prices are rising
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| April 20, 2006
| Maurizio d’Orlando
Posted on 04/20/2006 1:17:48 PM PDT by NYer
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:17:52 PM PDT
by
NYer
To: NYer
We are taking it in the...
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:18:40 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
((Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
To: NYer
We sure get a lot of conflicting messages about the oil situation. Just yesterday I heard refineries were still below normal because of Katrina. And lower because of switching to spring/summer fuel mix. I have a hard time keeping up.:)
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:23:20 PM PDT
by
mlc9852
To: stephenjohnbanker
Brent crude has reached US$ 74 a barrel because of lowered refinery use and a backup in crude inventories that has left many a super tanker waiting to unload.
Why would an oversupply result in crude prices going up?
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:23:42 PM PDT
by
Wristpin
("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
To: NYer
Or the hedge funds decided to make commodities a new place to park part of their dough.
Will it be a permanent policy or temporary?
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:23:46 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: Wristpin
I think he meant "despite"
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:24:40 PM PDT
by
Shermy
To: NYer
I suspect that part of the price rise is a massive amount of spec money coming in from somewhere. Prices usually rise this time of year (it is shut down time for the refineries), but this is a bit nuts. Storage is getting limited.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:24:47 PM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: NYer
It is because they say we don't know what tomorrow will bring. The price to replenish the stocks inevitably will be higher.
How much did this puke get at retirement? Several hunderd million?
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:26:08 PM PDT
by
Joe Boucher
(an enemy of islam)
To: Shermy
If this just occurred to you, you've missed your Weekly Reader. Last Monday's inventory report also reported over one million open interest contracts for crude, 2 oil and gasoline. The Funds are involved in a very big way.
To: mlc9852
Maybe it depends on which refineries are involved.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:28:16 PM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: NYer
Brent crude has reached US$ 74 a barrel because of lowered refinery use Huh? Less demand be refineries would cause prices to fall.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:28:33 PM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: Rodney King
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:28:43 PM PDT
by
Rodney King
(No, we can't all just get along.)
To: Wristpin
Good question. I have no clue.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:29:19 PM PDT
by
stephenjohnbanker
((Immigration: Acting like dupes does not earn us their respect, but their CONTEMPT.))
To: Wristpin
I think the market is anticipating a shortage due to an Iranian War - something that is inevitable, failing a popular revolution - which is unlikely to succeed without our active involvement.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:29:24 PM PDT
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: NYer
Perhaps the rise in oil prices is collateral to the change in Russian, Chinese, and Indian economies towards more capitalism.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:30:33 PM PDT
by
Doctor Stochastic
(Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
To: Shermy
Well, there goes the supply and demand argument. Despite the libs screaming about the oil companies, it's fairly obviously we are getting stuck by the oil traders. Is there any kind of watchdog activity on these shadowy figures?
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:30:37 PM PDT
by
Wristpin
("The Yankees announce plan to buy every player in Baseball....")
To: NYer
Standard Oil all over again, just now its Hedge Fund and Futures Traders bleeding the public dry.
To: Rodney King
Huh? Less demand be refineries would cause prices to fall. Not really. There is a lot of spec money involved, and commodity prices don't follow supply and demand curves all the time. Part of it is that everyone expects the price to rise, so it does. Doesn't matter if they are looking for tank space to store the crude, the price will still rise.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:31:42 PM PDT
by
redgolum
("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
To: Joe Boucher
Two facts that you're missing. I learned these from the intellectual superiors on another thread.
1. Oil is a totally free market, and none of the players are manipulating or colluding to drive prices higher. It's only supply and demand and that's it.
2. If you are experiencing anything less than orgasmic joy that the CEO of EXXON just parachuted off with $400,000,000, then that means you're a communist. Even if it just makes you mad and you don't want the government to do anything about it.
Hope this helps. I hear legions of them coming to attack you in their intellectually superior way right now.
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:34:12 PM PDT
by
mysterio
To: Wristpin
When was the last time you filled up your car at the local refinery?
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posted on
04/20/2006 1:34:32 PM PDT
by
Old Professer
(The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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