Esoteric secrets, Scottish Freemasonry and the building of the American dream

The Scotsman ^ | April 20, 2006 | DIANE MACLEAN

[Pharmboy]

The Scots had their influence on The Revolution not only through Freemasonry but through their Presbyterian Church as well.

[Pharmboy]

There are a few factual errors in this article (like the date the Scottish Masons were asked to come here to build the White House), but all in all, quite interesting.

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[Pharmboy]

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[bobjam]

The purpose of a mason is to build things; particularly things that last. This is why Freemasonry, which began with stone masons, initially attracted people who were involved in design and construction (carpenters, masons, surveyors, architects, engineers, etc). The movement eventually expanded upon its builder roots into a group of community leaders interested in "building society or civilization". This is why in many places the organization was a "who's who" of community leaders (business and political).

[ohhhh]

Freemasons are lucifer worshipers and not Christians, they are part of the Catholic Church and their traditions, as all traditions do, have led them to heresies contrary to the Word of God.
Let God be true and every man a liar, that...

[mondonico]

Here's an interesting book about masonry in early American history:

[Ros42]

Ah, Rosslyn!

My 5th ggrandfather, born in Scotland, was President of our 1st Continental Congress, and among other things, was a Freemason :) Insteresting artcile, thanks!

[DeuceTraveler]

From what I've read of the founding fathers, early American Freemasonry was not anti-Christian, unlike the European version. I don't know if that has changed in recent history.

It does seem like all versions Freemasonry has always been partially cultish. Some of the ceremonies derive partially from Egyptian and Sumerian mythology, the Greek Mystery fates, gnosticism, a claim on the Templars, and numerology. Many of their 'facts' seem to be made up to fit their overall story, similar to Dan Brown's work in general. All in all, Freemasonry looks like something put together by a bunch of 16th and 17th century quacks.

[Aquinasfan]

There were no entirely democratic countries in the world. So the argument goes that America looked at Scottish Freemasonry, which was very democratic. That's why people claim the USA is a Masonic country."

It's a pretty good argument.

[mondonico]

Freemasons are lucifer worshipers and not Christians, they are part of the Catholic Church and their traditions, as all traditions do, have led them to heresies contrary to the Word of God.

Let God be true and every man a liar, that...

That's news to me (and to the Pope, apparently):

DECLARATION ON MASONIC ASSOCIATIONS NOTE: The following is the most recent decree from the Vatican on the subject of Freemasonry and is thus is the most current statement of the Church's law on this topic…

Issued by the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith on November 26, 1983.

It has been asked whether there has been any change in the Church's decision in regard to Masonic associations since the new Code of Canon Law does not mention them expressly, unlike the previous Code.

This Sacred Congregation is in a position to reply that this circumstance is due to an editorial criterion which was followed also in the case of other associations likewise unmentioned inasmuch as they are contained in wider categories.

Therefore the Church's negative judgment in regard to Masonic associations remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.

It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above, and this in line with the Declaration of this Sacred Congregation issued on 17 February 1981 (cf. AAS 73 [1981] pp. 240-241).

In an audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II approved and ordered the publication of this Declaration which had been decided in an ordinary meeting of this Sacred Congregation.

Rome, from the Office of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, 26 November 1983.

JOSEPH Card. RATZINGER Prefect

+ Fr. JEROME HAMER, O.P. Titular Archbishop of Lorium Secretary

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[Pharmboy]

ohhhh...noooooo. You could not be more wrong if you set out to be. If anything, the Masons were at ODDS with the Catholic Church. Do some reading. And, FWIW, I am not a Mason.

[Zavien Doombringer]

Freemasons are lucifer worshipers and not Christians, they are part of the Catholic Church and their traditions, as all traditions do, have led them to heresies contrary to the Word of God. Let God be true and every man a liar, that...

Uh, that's news to me... considering I know a few Protestants that are Masons...Though they do not talk about thier society, they do say it isn't anything Catholic....There are Catholics that have joined, as well as Unitarians and those of other faiths...

[XR7]

they are part of the Catholic Church and their traditions...

BS

[Eagles6]

bttt

[Pharmboy]

Thanks...I enjoyed this one:

[Zavien Doombringer]

There is no doubt that the Masons built Washington, DC.

There are many symbols in the gound works and roads

There is a Pentagram that has the White house at the main point, The District is made in a perfect square pointing north, the Elipse is center of the square. and so on...Look at a map of DC.

[Pharmboy]

Very impressive ancestor! And through you, I thank him for his Patriotism, Courage and Honour.

[Ticonderoga34]

I not a Mason but I am part Scottish. I think that it would be pretty neat if the Scots influenced the building of the America Republic.