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Catholics more anti-illegals than their bishops
The Washington Times ^ | 4/18/2006 | Julia Duin

Posted on 04/18/2006 3:45:55 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX

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1 posted on 04/18/2006 3:45:56 PM PDT by HEMICRASHBOX
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

A microcosm of American society as a whole. A vast majority of all Americans are against illegal immigration and amnesty, yet our leaders are all for it.


2 posted on 04/18/2006 3:52:51 PM PDT by frankiep
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Or is this a way for the church to expand its ranks when the numbers are declining?


3 posted on 04/18/2006 4:00:41 PM PDT by misterrob (Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
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To: HEMICRASHBOX
All you have to do is ask the parishioners how they feel about law breakers.
4 posted on 04/18/2006 4:02:45 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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"Or is this a way for the church to expand its ranks when the numbers are declining?"

DING! DING! DING!

WE HAVE A WINNER!!!
(Tell him what he's won, Johnny.....)


5 posted on 04/18/2006 4:08:45 PM PDT by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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>>All you have to do is ask the parishioners how they feel about law breakers.

Yea, like speeding, cheating on taxes, etc. I'd say just about everyone in the parish is guilty of doing some illegal act -- so don't expect many to cast the first stone...


6 posted on 04/18/2006 4:18:43 PM PDT by ladyshealth
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To: HEMICRASHBOX

The Ayatollahs, i.e., Cardinals McCarrick and MAHONY and their Mullahs(Bishops) have complete contempt for the laws of the USA.

You might recall how these ayatollahs and mullahs treated the issue of the PEDOPHILE PRIEST and the manner in which they utilized their position to protect their little CLERGY CLUB from the prosecution while maintaining a total contempt for the faithful that trusted in them!

These BISHOPS TREAT THE ILLEGAL ALIEN LAWS IN OUR COUNTRY IN THE SAME MANNER THAT THEY TREATED THE PEDOPHILE LAWS!

The following is an excerpt for a previous post of a NRO article dealing with the Ayattollah Mahony & his attitude towards USA LAW:


The American legal tradition has until now assumed that it takes a congressional enactment or a judicial ruling to overturn a duly enacted law. With the ubiquitous chant, "No person is illegal," first popularized by Los Angeles Cardinal Roger Mahony, that tradition is over. Pace Cardinal Mahony, under existing immigration law, a person may in fact be "illegal," if he has broken into the country without permission or has overstayed his visa. Mahoney and the hordes who have taken up the "No person is illegal" slogan beg to differ. No law has the power to confer illegal status on an alien law-breaker, they say. Therefore, the existing laws are void — simply because the illegal aliens and their supporters do not like them, not because Congress has decided to withdraw them. This alleged power to overturn laws based on sheer presence is a remarkable new constitutional development.




These Bishops are just as guilty as the perpetrators of these on felonies on these poor boys!


7 posted on 04/18/2006 4:20:19 PM PDT by petkus
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I'm refering to the ILLEGAL-immigration side of the law. Bishops condoning ILLEGAL immigration is against our US laws.
8 posted on 04/18/2006 4:27:12 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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The following is an excerpt for a previous post of a NRO article dealing with the Ayattollah Mahony & his attitude towards USA LAW:

This NRO piece is a rant. Where, exactly, is the quote from Mahoney that states that "nobody is illegal"? And where are the quotes that state Mahoney believes there should be no laws against illegal immigration?

Your rants against the Catholic Church are growing tiresome, and they're all the same.

If you want to know what the US Catholic Church believes about immigration, go here.

9 posted on 04/18/2006 4:28:38 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: frankiep

Bishops can be like American politicians. They are alike in the fact that usually live in secluded, extremely nice homes and neighborhoods thereby causing them to never understand what it is like to live with illegal immigrants. Case in point - we have a friend who lives in Jackson Heights, NY in Queens in a nice middle-class neighborhood consisting of single family homes. Then they noticed what looked many, many Mexican people hanging around a particular house day and night. As our friend said it was "not nice". We all know that this won't happen to the Bishops' homes and certainly not the politicians' homes. So they live completely apart from the American people who are the ones who have to put up with the living with illegal Mexican immigrants.


10 posted on 04/18/2006 4:31:08 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: sinkspur

Not only that, but what are the poll results if you ask about "path to citizenship" rather than "amnesty"? I thought Free Republic was skeptical about ALL polling, but I guess not.


11 posted on 04/18/2006 4:40:22 PM PDT by clawrence3
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20 million illegal aliens.....wonder what % theses guys figure are gonna go to church regularly and fill up that collection plate....?
12 posted on 04/18/2006 4:40:54 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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That is exactly the point! There is NO financial interest in the Catholic Church sticking up for them, and they still are doing it out of a calling of love ultimately shown to all of us by Jesus Christ.


13 posted on 04/18/2006 4:45:55 PM PDT by clawrence3
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Hummm..isn't Cardinal Mahony's parish about 75% Hispanic?

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14 posted on 04/18/2006 4:49:49 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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So they live completely apart from the American people who are the ones who have to put up with the living with illegal Mexican immigrants.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. You really don't.

15 posted on 04/18/2006 5:02:49 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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Or is this a way for the church to expand its ranks when the numbers are declining?

That is the primary mission of the Church. Governments and countries come and go but Christ is eternal.

16 posted on 04/18/2006 5:03:03 PM PDT by Raycpa
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75% sounds a little high, given the total number of Catholics in the Los Angeles arhdiocese - keep in mind it's not just Latinos - Asian Catholics now outnumber white Catholics. Each week in L.A., the Mass is celebrated in 42 different languages (43 if you count Mel Gibson's Latin Mass ; )

http://publicpolicy.pepperdine.edu/davenportinstitute/reports/faithandpublicpolicy2004/Faith%20and%20PP%20report.pdf


17 posted on 04/18/2006 5:03:43 PM PDT by clawrence3
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Hummm..isn't Cardinal Mahony's parish about 75% Hispanic?

The Archdiocese of Los Angeles is about 75% Hispanic in its Catholic population.

18 posted on 04/18/2006 5:04:17 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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According to the report linked above, roughly three-quarters of the archdiocese's parishes have at least one Mass in Spanish - I don't know that that translates to 3/4 of all parishioners being Latino though - any more than the one venue our Church holds in Spanish translates to south Orange County, CA at large.


19 posted on 04/18/2006 5:08:22 PM PDT by clawrence3
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They are doing it because they are Democratic party hacks. The fact is that Catholic teaching does not infallibly support their perspective. The issue of illegal immigration falls into the category of justice which has as its overriding concern the common good. The common good is not well served where contempt of the law is urged. A nation has both a duty and responsibility under the natural law to protect its citizens while being generous in admitting persons from outside its borders needing refuge. The US has never faltered on that last account and it doesn't intend to do so now. The prospective laws are merely intended to try to stem the flow of illegals to a manageable level. Those laws are reasonable while the reaction of many of the bishops is wholly unreasonable and fostered more by politics than religion. As such they should be held accountable under the law and arrested for egregious violations.


20 posted on 04/18/2006 5:20:38 PM PDT by wiley
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