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Been in a public school lately?
Apr.19,2006 | 13Sisters76

Posted on 04/18/2006 5:23:39 AM PDT by 13Sisters76

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To: 13Sisters76
I have worked in a school system for almost 7 years, and what you are saying is dead on. Our school system seems to loose control in middle school and it gets worse the higher up they go. teachers cower, principals usually bow to lunatic parents. We even had one mental defective parent threaten to sue because her little darling hurt his arm breaking into a candy machine.
There are a few good students, but they are few and far between. I can fully understand why American business farm out to other countries. Our educational system is grinding out wannabe rap stars with skills that barley let them say "you want fries with that"?
Everyone should do a drop in and see what is happening in their local district, it will shock you. Good luck to you 13Sisters76, you are not alone.
81 posted on 04/18/2006 6:21:36 AM PDT by 12th_Monkey
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To: moog

Don't know that they aren't using phonetics. I have seen her (made her!) sound out words, but sometimes she just seems to guess at words. Doesn't matter, I'm happy for now!


82 posted on 04/18/2006 6:21:40 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: stentorian conservative
rom the moment I gave birth to my first child I knew what my occupation was/is. Sadly, the Family unit no longer exists in most cases. Parents have left the raising of their Children to the system, and the system is the homosexual agenda and anti-Christian among other things. On another note, I will say that our schools are in dire need of teachers such as yourself. It is an uphill battle but the kids need you. Yes, there are more factors than one. Strong families and teachers can help. Kudos to you for being both.
83 posted on 04/18/2006 6:22:09 AM PDT by moog
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To: bonfire

ROFLOL....Since becoming a member of FR, I've come to the conclusion that the best recommendation for a PS is if some Freepers kid goes there:).

The PS's that freepers kids go to are always great:)

Becky


84 posted on 04/18/2006 6:23:01 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Ride a Quarter Horse, it's good for the spirit)
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To: Little Ray

That is an early reading behavior. Kindergarten (at least here) is much more academic than it used to be. The kids come into my first grade class reading better every year.


85 posted on 04/18/2006 6:24:28 AM PDT by moog
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To: bboop
Public schools do not teach teachers about html paragraphs and breaks.
Please give her one. (a break that is) FWIW, do YOU know what html stands for? Do you know what SGML stood for? WYSIWYG?
86 posted on 04/18/2006 6:25:55 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Kind of how I feel when we teachers get blamed for everything. There's multiple things to consider and we shouldn't be making excuses and such. We need to get in and do something.


87 posted on 04/18/2006 6:25:56 AM PDT by moog
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To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain

Freepers are intelligent enough to live in areas with great school systems. I chose my town BECAUSE of the school system. Both times. Maybe we should start a thread that lists all the good Public School systems for Freepers looking to move!


88 posted on 04/18/2006 6:26:00 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: jude24; 13Sisters76

Then you need to learn to read. I had no problem at all reading it.

I appreciate your article. People need to hear this more often.

Becky


89 posted on 04/18/2006 6:26:38 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Ride a Quarter Horse, it's good for the spirit)
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To: moog
I think you're right. She can also write forward and backwards with equal skill...
90 posted on 04/18/2006 6:27:21 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: wolficatZ

Even MADONNA claims that she does not let her child watch television!


91 posted on 04/18/2006 6:28:29 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: moog

"Kind of how I feel when we teachers get blamed for everything. There's multiple things to consider and we shouldn't be making excuses and such. We need to get in and do something."

One word: Parents.



92 posted on 04/18/2006 6:28:49 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: Little Ray

I've been amazed at some "mirror-image" spelling tests over the years. HEHE It doesn't occur often, but drives me nuts when it does. :)


93 posted on 04/18/2006 6:29:28 AM PDT by moog
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To: bonfire; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
Freepers are intelligent enough to live in areas with great school systems. I chose my town BECAUSE of the school system.

Good point. Not only did we choose a different town, we chose an entirely different STATE.

No system is oging to be perfect and I have had my share of difficulties with the District level staff - but am very happy with the school level staff.

94 posted on 04/18/2006 6:30:21 AM PDT by Gabz (Smokers are the beta version)
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To: bonfire

LOL,,,I was being sarcastic. Nothing in the world will convince me that there are any good public schools anywhere. Sorry:)

Becky


95 posted on 04/18/2006 6:30:31 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Ride a Quarter Horse, it's good for the spirit)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

"Sounds like we're raising a whole generation of celebrities." --- which is exactly where these kids get most of their guidance in life.


96 posted on 04/18/2006 6:30:58 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot
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97 posted on 04/18/2006 6:32:48 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: bonfire

On that we can agree:) I've never blamed anyone but the parents for the shape the schools are in.

Becky


98 posted on 04/18/2006 6:34:27 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain (Ride a Quarter Horse, it's good for the spirit)
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To: 13Sisters76
I have a friend teaching at college level...The young students she is seeing are "dumb as rocks", complaining, and confrontational. They refuse suggestions to bring up their grades and then whine to the administrators when they do poorly.

I concur with these observations. 'Remedial' or 'developmental' enrollment in colleges grows exponentially by the year. This is why community colleges are becoming lucrative - because of the mission to get the kids ready for real life, after public school (what do those property taxes go for again??).

There are plenty of Goth-hicks, Spoiled Jennies, Hoods, and [please don't lose all hope] good kids in 'regular' classes. College instructors have also begun noticing more behavioral problems than in the past. Strong teachers have them removed by security. Yes, it happens in college. Thank goodness, college still allows students to fail (despite every excuse and threat in the book). On the first day of classes I always reiterate that, "You're not in high school any more," and when I sense an idiot that is going to disrupt the class I also mention that, "A wonderful thing happens on the first day of summer vacation for a graduating senior - the bully becomes a criminal." It depends on where a person teaches, but drop rates are between 30 - 50% for most classes. I don't know the real numbers on the percentage of students that actually graduate. Just a little perspective to brighten all our days. :)
99 posted on 04/18/2006 6:35:00 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: bonfire
I DON"T blame parents for everything as a teacher. We sometimes forget about things like personal responsibility and individual effort, the media, priorities, the climate of disrespect, emhasis on the negative, the absence of strong fathers, and yes BOTH teachers and parents. What teachers DO need to do is communicate with parents and vice versa and NOT just about negative things. I am also lucky too that the parents realize that I am not perfect (far from it) as a teacher and give me a little slack. I, in turn, can give a little too. It doesn't have to be a free-for-all.

My parents expected us to get our butt in class, learn something, behave, and show respect, no matter what, otherwise we got our butts kicked (including the present). We were expected to do our homework BEFORE TV and couldnt't have friends over during weekdays. We were all widely involved in things, but just behind family and Church things, education was seen as next in importance. And we children are all the more better because of that.

100 posted on 04/18/2006 6:36:07 AM PDT by moog
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