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Internet Becoming A Practical Alternative For Telephone Service
Hartford Courant ^ | 4/13/06 | John M. Moran

Posted on 04/17/2006 7:41:51 AM PDT by Pop Fly

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Interesting article about how lots of money can be saved using low-cost VoIP providers such as SunRocket. I don't have it myself, but the cost savings sound astronomical. Clearly this could be the wave of the future for phone calls.
1 posted on 04/17/2006 7:41:53 AM PDT by Pop Fly
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We have had VOIP for about three months now, and have had great results...for $25/month, with the same services we had from Qwest. What I especially like is that you can go online and read your voice mail and see a call log, both incoming and outgoing calls. I expect the telco and cable companies will figure out a way to penalize the VOIP companies so that they can cash in on the service, but we are enjoying it while it lasts.


2 posted on 04/17/2006 7:45:40 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (I LIVE in a border state, DAMMIT! Fine the employers and the illegals will go home!)
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I don't know anything about SunRocket, but my experience with Vonage was absolutely terrible. The incoming sound quality was perfect, but the outgoing sound cut out about every 30 seconds for 2 to 3 second gaps. You can also forget about getting help from their customer service. After several calls to Vonage, I was told it sounded like my adapter was defective, and I sould return it. Of course, since I had previously sent my receipt to Vonage in order to get a rebate, that wasn't an option. Vonage also agreed to refund the termination fee they charge when you leave their service, but that didn't happen, either.


3 posted on 04/17/2006 7:45:42 AM PDT by LanPB01
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It is not so much VOIP that is killing the POTS (plain old telephone service) as it is mobile phone service.

Here in Slovakia, a country of only 5 million, the number of mobile phones is over 3 million, and that was four years
ago. Now it is rare to see anyone over 7 and under 80, that does not have a mobile.
I should add, the mobile service here has always better and far ahead of service in the US.


4 posted on 04/17/2006 7:51:06 AM PDT by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava, Slovakia)
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Your uplink QoS (Quality of Service) was bad, and you were probably skimping on upload bandwidth. Also, depending on which modem you were using, the modems sometimes tend to drop packets and need to be reset once in a while, or you may have needed to replace your modem. I have had no problems with Vonage whatsoever.

I found their customer service to be excellent, especially compared to the local telephone company.


5 posted on 04/17/2006 7:51:55 AM PDT by TommyDale
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I originally ran the adapter through my D-Link gaming router, and made sure there was enough upload bandwith. When that didn't work, I ran the adapter straight through the cable modem, so no router was in the way. Still got the same results.


6 posted on 04/17/2006 8:01:34 AM PDT by LanPB01
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I expect the telco and cable companies will figure out a way to penalize the VOIP companies so that they can cash in on the service, but we are enjoying it while it lasts.

Don't bet on it from the telco companies.

7 posted on 04/17/2006 8:03:31 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Never heard of Sunrocket or Tomato Vine, which I've been hearing advertised. I'm using Time-Warner's service for $39.99, though I've been tempted by Vonage, since they advertise so much and it's quite a bit cheaper.


8 posted on 04/17/2006 8:04:06 AM PDT by Flavius Josephus (Nationalism is not a crime.)
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I don't know anything about SunRocket, but my experience with Vonage was absolutely terrible.

If you consider getting VoIP again, SunRocket is probably worth checking out. My friend who has it raves about how it has more features than Vonage and is signifanctly cheaper.

9 posted on 04/17/2006 8:04:58 AM PDT by Pop Fly
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One of the problems with VOIP is that with almost all the providers 911 service doesn't work correctly.
The call will go through but there is no way to see the address automatically for the 911 operators.
This creates a problem if you have a situation where you can dial but not tell them the address.
10 posted on 04/17/2006 8:06:52 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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I replaced my DSL and ISP providers that were costing me over $50 per month with a wireless ISP as fast as DSL that compbines the services for $30 per month. Then some time ago I dropped my Qwest land line costing up to $50 per month with a Vonage $15 per month service. I figured that with only 3 cents a minute for overage minutes on the $15 service, I would seldom use enough minutes to go over the $25 unlimited service. Especially since a lot of our minutes are cell minutes anyway.

That's proven true. I've only gone over $25 twice, and then just a small amount, and most months have been just $15.

So I've rduced a phone and ISP bill of well over $100 per month to just $45. And by paying the wireless service for a year in advance, they gave me a 20% cut on the wireless service to boot.

The quality of the service is not quite up to Telco standards, but it is satisfactory to me.


11 posted on 04/17/2006 8:07:20 AM PDT by B.Bumbleberry
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One of the problems with VOIP is that with almost all the providers 911 service doesn't work correctly. The call will go through but there is no way to see the address automatically for the 911 operators. This creates a problem if you have a situation where you can dial but not tell them the address.

I don't know how it works for VoIP as a whole, or other services, but according to this article SunRocket has 911 coverage that records your address immediately, even if your call gets disconnected.

12 posted on 04/17/2006 8:12:46 AM PDT by Pop Fly
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I have seen Motorola modems that tend to cause similar problems. I am not familiar with the D-Link, but my Linksys has been flawless.


13 posted on 04/17/2006 8:13:15 AM PDT by TommyDale
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Does anybody know how it works with fax?


14 posted on 04/17/2006 8:17:38 AM PDT by Rider on the Rain
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I run at 28.8K on a noisy phone line. Can this system work over a satellite link?
15 posted on 04/17/2006 8:21:02 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends-)
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Hmmm...Tomato Vine is one I'm not familiar with. You pay $39.99 a month for Time Warner VoIP? Yikes, you definitely need a cheaper plan. Vonage is definitely cheaper than Time Warner, but if SunRocket is $200 a year and Vonage is $300, it seems like a no-brainer which one to get, regardless of who advertises more.


16 posted on 04/17/2006 8:24:03 AM PDT by Pop Fly
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Yes, I saw that. That's why I said almost all VOIP providers.

Unless they have VPN tunnels from one of their sites to the rest you are also risking some big time voice lag across the internet.

17 posted on 04/17/2006 8:24:34 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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Yes, I saw that. That's why I said almost all VOIP providers.

Ahhh.....touche, Just another Joe, you did say ALMOST all....my bad! I'm surprised other services besides Sunrocket haven't made E911 a priority...I'm sure that's something that holds a lot of people back from getting it.

18 posted on 04/17/2006 8:30:03 AM PDT by Pop Fly
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Does anybody know how it works with fax?

I don't know about SunRocket, but I do know that fax can work with VOIP.

19 posted on 04/17/2006 8:34:04 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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My friend got (and cancelled) Vonage as it sounded like every other second was skipped. It was sooo frustrating trying to listen to her talk. She could hear me fine, but you couldn't hear her well at all.

Until this technology improves, I'll keep the landline.


20 posted on 04/17/2006 8:34:35 AM PDT by sandbar
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