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The Generals' revolt
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| Ap 15 06
| Buchanan
Posted on 04/15/2006 8:14:44 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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What do generals know about war? What do men who made the defense of the United States know about patriotism?
To: churchillbuff
MacArthur was right to speak the truth about the war his soldiers were being forced to fight
To: churchillbuff
Are these generals hold overs from the Kinton regime and have some sort of axe to grind? What general worth his salt dosen't think that he knows better than the next guy up the chain of command? If they had the balls, why did they not speak up when they were on active duty?
To: churchillbuff
Bring back trench warfare./s
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:18:49 AM PDT
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
To: churchillbuff
a guerrilla war the Pentagon did not predict or expect.""
Not true. Bush and Rummy were warned by the generals that they'd need many more troops for post-invasion stabilization of Iraq.
To: churchillbuff
And speaking of revolting, why, heeere's PAT!
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:19:57 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
To: Meadow Muffin
Are these generals hold overs from the Kinton regime and have some sort of axe to grind?"""
No, they've been commanding men in Iraq and they know that Rummy's policy of too-few troops, too poorly provisioned, was wrong from the beginning and has cost lives.
To: churchillbuff
Doesn't mean they're not Clinton holdovers. It's not as though a new president is going to purge all the old generals. This isn't Russia. (yet)
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04/15/2006 8:21:09 AM PDT
by
MizSterious
(Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
To: MizSterious
Pat cites another great general, MacArthur, who also had the courage to blow the whistle on incompetent civilian "leadership"
To: churchillbuff
Czar Nicholas was deposed and then executed by the Bolsheviks. Wonder why Buchana picked him to compare to Bush?
To: churchillbuff
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:22:39 AM PDT
by
Incorrigible
(If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
To: MizSterious
BUsh and Rummy were publicly warned by more than one general that they weren't sending enough troops. I'm glad that these (different) generals, aren't letting the public forget that, because it was a monumental mistake.
To: Meadow Muffin
Most I believe are holdouts from the Klintonista days. These are the new Wesly Clarks and the left are going to do their best to make hay with them. Just like Cindy SH!t-han they will be discarded once they have outlived their usefullness to the MSM. They now have book deals and speaking engagements to promote and are saying what the MSM want to hear so they can promote them. These clowns don't have the balls, obviously, because they waited until they retired to guarantee their pensions before they opened their pieholes. Don't get me wrong, I admire their service to this country just as I do Murtha's but just like him they have "jumped the shark". I'll stick with Norman and Tommy when I want a general's opinion. They are proven winners.
To: churchillbuff
Not all generals are great military men....just good pentagon politicians....
5 generals out of several hundred retired generals/admirals is hardly an issue....
This is much ado about nothing except that the liberal media wants so deperately to have the military agree with their anti-war stance they'll grab at a few malcontentents as validation of their misguided and innapropriate stance.....
It's laughable at best....
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04/15/2006 8:24:40 AM PDT
by
nevergore
(“It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.”)
To: churchillbuff
These generals just spit on our troops in the field; if they thought this, they should have resigned and spoken out then, not wait for full retirement,and the benefits that go along with them. These retired generals get no respect from this citizen.
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04/15/2006 8:24:53 AM PDT
by
Laverne
To: churchillbuff
If Bush fires Rumsfeld it will appear to be a weak move in response to public criticism. But, the fact that so many Generals are pointing the finger at SecDef (the civilian in charge of the military) is a problem and cannot simply be brushed aside by those who worship at the altar of Rummy.
His leadership style is far from warm and fuzzy and he pisses people off. I have no opinion on that as he is not supposed to be a diplomat and it isn't his job to appease the egos of Generals. However, too many of them say that he buts his nose into affairs of planning and engagement, he doesn't want to listen to the people who's job it is to carry out the plans and that he wants Yes men.
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:25:36 AM PDT
by
misterrob
(Teach a Liberal to think for himself and he'll vote Conservative for the rest of his life.)
To: churchillbuff
Columnist Ignatius makes that precise point: "Rumsfeld should resign because the administration is losing the war on the home front. Ah, the drive by media's job is almost done.
To: churchillbuff
The most efficient war ever fought that included taking over a country and some back seat drivers think they could have done better.
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:26:49 AM PDT
by
HuntsvilleTxVeteran
("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
To: churchillbuff
In just two weeks, six RETIRED U.S. Marine and Army generals have denounced the Pentagon planning for the war in Iraq and called for the resignation or firing of Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld.
Nuff said.
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posted on
04/15/2006 8:27:41 AM PDT
by
Thoro
(Then an accidental overdose of gamma radiation alters his body chemistry....)
To: churchillbuff
When an active duty commander speaks out, I will listen. Accusing the Sec Def of "swagger" sounds like a dem talking point rather than a credible charge of incompetence.
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