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Archbishop may defy migrant rules (San Antonio/South Texas)
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 14 April 2006 | J. Michael Parker

Posted on 04/14/2006 2:35:21 PM PDT by Racehorse

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To: Racehorse

LOL - you would have prosecuted yourself?! Let me show you how easy it is to answer "knowing everything you know now, would you have turned in runaway slaves?" No.


161 posted on 04/15/2006 1:12:17 PM PDT by clawrence3
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Then why would you say "There is nothing like the "Potatoe" Famine ravaging the region south of the border"? How many died during that famine?


162 posted on 04/15/2006 1:14:15 PM PDT by clawrence3
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LOL - you would have prosecuted yourself?! Let me show you how easy it is to answer "knowing everything you know now, would you have turned in runaway slaves?" No.

Yes.  That was easy, wasn't it?

My view is bit less simplistic and easy, as explained.  Sorry you found fault with it.

163 posted on 04/15/2006 1:37:15 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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To: Racehorse
Living at that time and in those circumstances, if charged to do so, without prejudice I would absolutely prosecute anyone who knowingly assisted runaway slaves, because they were obligated to act according to the law and they did not.

And you would also, I suppose, have turned in those who assisted runaway slaves to the authorities. I would not have.

I would not turn in an employer I knew to be hiring illegals. I've used illegals myself, I suspect, as subcontractors in a remodeling project. I didn't ask, and I would not ask.

I've got two very close family members who are police officers in Texas, and both say that their departments' policies (both work for different cities) are that they don't detain illegals unless they're committing some offense other than being illegal. IOW, they don't ask for IDs of Hispanics they see who are minding their own business.

164 posted on 04/15/2006 2:12:53 PM PDT by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: clawrence3

Unknown. Hundreds of thousands. IAC. the population on the island was about 8 million in 1840, less than half that number in1900, owing to emigration.


165 posted on 04/15/2006 3:50:02 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: sinkspur
And you would also, I suppose, have turned in those who assisted runaway slaves to the authorities. I would not have.

Others do not like the answer, but what I would do or not do would depend on a variety of circumstances.  In some circumstances, yes, I might well have done precisely that.  Anyone who does not allow for justifications for doing so have not thought about it as much as they think they have.

I would not turn in an employer I knew to be hiring illegals.

Here, the decision becomes easier.  If I have evidence, not mere suspicion or a hunch, you bet I'd turn them in to immigration.  They might be cheating my fellow citizens, friends and family out of an opportunity to work, not even bothering to think about ancillary costs to the taxpayer.  Among my friends and family are Koreans, Mexicans and Thais,  naturalized citizens each and everyone.

I've used illegals myself, I suspect, as subcontractors in a remodeling project. I didn't ask, and I would not ask.

Like I say, suspicion is not enough.  Neither would I ask.

If you were my neighbor, and I knew with certainty you were employing illegals, most likely I would not report you to the authorities, and I certainly would not go out of my way to confirm suspicion.  The thought of spying and informing on neighbors is repugnant to me.  But if your driveway was a pick up point for illegal day labor, your days would be numbered.

I've got two very close family members who are police officers in Texas, and both say that their departments' policies (both work for different cities) are that they don't detain illegals unless they're committing some offense other than being illegal. IOW, they don't ask for IDs of Hispanics they see who are minding their own business.

As far as I'm concerned, that's the way it should be.  Sometimes State and federal agencies use police as back-up, so with respect to illegals, assisting federal authority by request shouldn't bother either of us.  No family members are cops, but a dozen or so of the older San Antonio cops are cops partially on my recommendation, or at least, none I recommended were ever turned away.

166 posted on 04/15/2006 5:34:04 PM PDT by Racehorse (Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.)
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