Posted on 04/14/2006 8:55:43 AM PDT by HiJinx
Huachuca Canyon is still in pretty good shape for running, and has very little illegal alien or smuggling traffic. The MPs have a worse reputation than the BP officers, whether it's deserved is moot.
However, the canyons leading out from the tank gunnery range (Garden and Woodcutter's) are prime routes for illegals. They hit the highway for rides north about a half mile from my house.
Sierra Vista and the Huachuca mountains are about 70 miles southeast of Tucson. The current MMP operation is about half that to the southwest. Phoenix is a hunnert miles to the northwest from Tucson/Pima County.
For sheer fun, take the head of lettuce to Phoenix. Make sure you have protection if you're planning what I think you're planning!
Will you be at the Phoenix rally?
I am thinking of making the drive from Tuscon
No, darn it. But I'll mail you $5 if you throw some heads of lettuce for me :)
I'm going up to the cabin at Parker Canyon this weekend. I'll be looking for the sign.
I've run into many illegals up there over the past couple of years. I never travel around up there without a gun anymore.
I'll be there, with my resume, why I am capable of picking lettuce for $50/hr : )
I wish more people would picture themselves in that situation. Most people cannot imagine how they would react if 100 people from a third world country appeared on their property. I know what we would do, but of course we would be arrested.
If this isn't invasion, I don't know what is. It's American government-assisted invasion of poverty, ignorance, disease and dependence without a shot being fired. America is outraged!
To those of you who aren't contacting the White House, Senators, Representatives, Governors, this is coming to your state soon, so you had better start dialing that phone, using fax, e-mail, personal visits, etc. if you value what's left of our sovereignty.
There will be 47 signs placed throughout the Coronado National Forest.
My first gut reaction to this (with our tax dollar paying for it) is that our Gov't is acknowledging their complete failure and interest to address this problem in the first place, and is saying...."Oh, btw...."
I'm sure we'd all like to see the day when those signs can be pulled down, when the gov't gets off their collective hineys and secures the border.
Sierra Vista government officials are jeopardizing their tax-exempt municipal and school bond issues by ignoring (or by aiding and abetting) illegals' lawbreaking.
Lawbreaking by those in this country illegally includes using phony documentation to obtain tax-paid government benefits, drivers licenses, tax-paid health care, and government-sponsored mortgages.
These are serious financial crimes that violate the fiduciary duties of elected officials, and jeopardizes the financial interests of investors and holders of Arizona's tax-exempt state, municpal, highway, utility, and school tax-exempt bond issues.
If Arizona municipal governemnt officials placing bond referenda on ballots, are allowing illegals to use phony documenation to vote on bond issues, that would constitute felonious activity, and should be reported.
This could also involve prosecution for collusion, if federal, state, and municipal Arizona government officials are conspiring to misuse your tax assets.
The SEC should be notified about violaitons of tax-exempt bond issues. EMAIL enforcement@SEC.gov.
This could also violate The Hobbs Act if public officials are aiding and abetting these activities----The Hobbs Act covers extortion by public officials, as follows: 2403 Hobbs Act -- Extortion By Force, Violence, or Fear. EMAIL ASK.DOJ@USDOJ.gov
The Hobbs Act regulates extortion and robbery, which Congress has determined have a substantial effect on interstate and foreign commerce by reason of their repetition and aggregate effect on the economy. Therefore, the proscribed offenses fall within the category of crimes based on the Commerce Clause whose "de minimis character of individual instances arising under [the] statute is of no consequence."
Primary investigative jurisdiction of offenses in 18 U.S.C. § 1951 lies with the FBI. The Inspector General's Office of Investigations, Division of Labor Racketeering(formerly the Office of Labor Racketeering), United States Department of Labor, is also authorized to investigate violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1951 in labor-management disputes involving the extortion of property from employers by reason of authority conferred on nvestigators as Special Deputy United States Marshals. Supervisory jurisdiction over 18 U.S.C. § 1951 is exercised by the following offices with respect to the offenses noted:
1. Extortion under color of official right or extortion by a public official through misuse of his/her office is supervised by the Public Integrity Section, Criminal Division.
2. Extortion and robbery in labor-management disputes is supervised by the Labor-Management Unit of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section, Criminal
Division.
3. All other extortion and robbery offenses not involving public officials or labor-management disputes are supervised by the Terrorism and Violent Crimes Section, Criminal Division.
SOURCE October 1997 Criminal Resource Manual 2403 http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/eousa/foia_reading_room/usam/title9/crm02403.htm
Why would there be a need for signs warning us of these "honest, hard-working folk who are just looking for a job"?
Oh, I forgot "God-fearing....."
Liz, not to be contrary but who is going to enforce/pursue those laws/charges?
Wise advice. Do you remember the older couple from that area who were beaten and kidnapped, then forced to drive two illegals to Tucson?
They managed to escape their captors in Sonoita, IIRC.
The United States of America
will henceforth be known as ...
BUSHMART
... where the doors are never closed and the shoppers are never hosed.
"Welcome to Bushmart, senor. Would you like a cart?"
Thank goodness I've never had 100 illegals in my yard- the most I've had at one time is 10 or 12. That's scary enough; you have to look at them intently and try to figure out which one you will shoot first if things go wrong. I have Border Patrol on speed dial, and am well armed, it is still unnerving to encounter them. There is just no way to know which ones are dangerous.
Fear is a primary emotion here, compassion was the order of the day for a co-worker last year.
After a particularly busy night, she went out to check her property for damage. She found a (very) bloody serape at the back corner of her yard. Someone had walked full-tilt into a Spanish Dagger (Yucca) plant and done themselves some real damage.
You worry about folks who take risks like that just for an opportunity to make it here in America.
I've rescued many illegals over the years. I used to travel the smuggler road here twice a day to work and I would find illegals in distress from heat in the summer. It is common here for coyotes to leave illegals in the middle of nowhere and tell them someone will pick them up. Connections often don't work and they are stranded. Many parts of that road are dead areas for a cell phone so I would usually have to bring them to town to call BP for help. I once found a man with his 2 year old daughter and she just could not travel any more. That was the saddest- I have often wondered what would bring a man to do that? I have also wondered what happened to the mother, or if they were sepearated somehow on the trip.
It is a sad situation, I do think a major barrier will in the long run be better even for the Mexicans and others that come from the South through here. If they had no where to go maybe they would try harder to improve things where they are. I also know from talking to some of them over the years that most have no idea how hard the trip through the desert really will be. They think they can come through here, because it is not as hot as the Arizona desert- but when the temperatures get 90-105 here, it's not enough difference to make travel safe.
“What we want is for people to be careful and cognizant of where they are,”
Yes,people should know , they are in the U.S, so they need to be alert for smuggling and illegals.
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