George Allen for President? (vanity)

To: Corin Stormhands

I know enough English to know that a you could drive a semi full of Mexicans through a "virtual" fence.

Only a professional politician who wants to sound one way but act in another uses words like "virtual fence"

Kinda like when partial birth advocates say it's a procedure that should only be used to save the "health of the woman". Sounds good till you figure "health" could mean a headache.

181 posted on 04/14/2006 4:22:39 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)

But apparently you don't understand the phrase "The point is to secure the border..."

Are you sure you're not an illegal alien?

182 posted on 04/14/2006 4:27:23 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Has the Bauer body count exceeded the Clinton body count?)

To: Corin Stormhands

It is simply fantasy to believe that we will EVER deport 10 million illegals.

Why is that? Because you want them here? Frankly, I could never vote for a candidate who believed such a thing to be true. In World War II, an estimated 18 million Germans served in the Wehrmacht. Yet we managed to deport them from Paris...they had Panzers.

Securing the border is meaningless if we are to give these 10 million some sort of amnesty and launch a guest worker program.

183 posted on 04/14/2006 6:53:33 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)

To: Corin Stormhands

Disagree with Allen all you like. Regardless of his views about the first trimester, he has long been a friend of the pro-life movement.

I'm afraid that it is you who have missed the point. I'm glad to see that you've thrown in the towel on trying to obscure Allen's personal support for first trimester abortions. This makes him an enemy of the pro life movement, or a hypocrite. Take your pick.

184 posted on 04/14/2006 6:57:31 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)

Why is that? Because you want them here?

Because it's just not going to happen.

185 posted on 04/14/2006 7:08:04 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Has the Bauer body count exceeded the Clinton body count?)

It is you who have miss the point, along with the facts:

Planned Parenthood gives George Allen an Anti-Choice rating of 0% (percentatage of time he's with them).

National Right to Life gives George Allen 100%.

From Project Vote Smart:

2005 Senator Allen supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2005.

2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Senator Allen supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2003 Senator Allen supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2003.

2001-2002 Senator Allen supported the interests of the National Right to Life Committee 100 percent in 2001-2002.

2001 Senator Allen supported the interests of the NARAL Pro-Choice America 0 percent in 2001.

1996-2003 Senator Allen supported the interests of the Planned Parenthood (Senate) 0 percent in 1996-2003.

1995-2004 On the votes that the National Family Planning & Reproductive Health Assocation considered to be the most important in 1995-2004, Senator Allen voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

If this is an enemy of the pro-life movement, I pray they're all against us.

186 posted on 04/14/2006 7:12:59 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Has the Bauer body count exceeded the Clinton body count?)

To: Corin Stormhands

Alright, fair enough. Now explain to me why I should support the candidacy of a hypocrite who believes that aborting babies in the first trimester is alright, but votes against such a position.

187 posted on 04/14/2006 7:19:04 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)

To: areafiftyone

I think he's been built up into something he really isn't by conservatives who seem to want another Ronald Reagan. I loved Reagan but Allen is definitely NO REAGAN.

Precisely, and after the past 6 years you'd think that more of us would have learned a lesson about doing that.

188 posted on 04/14/2006 7:21:06 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)

We seem to dislike Allen from different vantage points....

But we prolly can agree on this...Name an issue since he's been a Senator where he's been out in front?

The borders have been a disaster for years now....and "U.S. News and World Report. April 17, 2006 issue." he finally comes up with an idea that includes the meaningless but poll tested "virtual fence" nonsense"..... thats leadership?

189 posted on 04/14/2006 8:30:04 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)

To: Corin Stormhands

Get over it already. He is a current sitting senator. His resume is invalid.

See the big picture.

190 posted on 04/14/2006 8:41:36 PM PDT by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)

To: Blackirish; Old_Mil; Coop

Name an issue since he's been a Senator where he's been out in front?

Other than raising the bucks to keep and increase the Senate majority in 2002 and 2004 as Chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee?

Or...

Allen Ranks Second in 'Nanotech's Power Elite:2004'
WASHINGTON, DC - U.S. Senator George Allen (R-VA) has been named to a list of 'Nanotech's Power Elite: 2004' by a panel of editors at the Forbes/Wolfe Nanotech Report, a leading business publication on nanotechnology. In the survey, Senator Allen ranked second among a group of ten "movers and shakers in the emerging field of nanotechnology."

Or...

Allen Condemns Kennedy's Political Sniping
"Senator Kennedy's blustering, blatantly political remarks are irresponsible and harmful when he calls our noble mission to bring freedom to repressed people in Iraq 'Bush's Vietnam.'

Or...

Allen Calls on NFL to Dedicate Season To Pat Tillman
WASHINGTON, DC - Today U.S. Senator George Allen sent the following letter to NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue respectfully requesting that NFL leaders dedicate the upcoming season to the late Pat Tillman and to the other U.S. soldiers serving in the War on Terrorism.

Or...

Senate Passes Allen Bill Supporting Taiwan 'Observer Status' in WHO
WASHINGTON, DC - U.S. Senator George Allen (R-VA) today praised the Senate's passage last night of his resolution (S. 2092) in support of Taiwan receiving 'observer status' in the World Health Organization's (WHO) upcoming World Health Assembly meeting.

Or...

Allen Statement on Judge's Ruling on the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act
"Late term, Partial Birth Abortion is a rare, gruesome procedure that the American Medical Association says is akin to infanticide. It seems to be fairly typical that an unelected federal judge in San Francisco tries to stop a law that received such broad bipartisan support in Congress. The Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act is a reasonable measure which reflects the sensibilities and will of most Virginians and Americans. I'm confident that eventually the Supreme Court of the United States will uphold the law as passed by the people's representatives in Congress."

Or...

Congress Approves Allen Internet Tax Ban

Or...

Allen Calls for Soldiers' Death Gratuity to Be Raised
WASHINGTON, DC - U.S. Senator George Allen (R-VA) today urged Congress to do more to help the families of soldiers killed in action by raising what is called the "Death Gratuity" to $100,000. The benefit is a cash payment to the survivor of soldiers killed in battle to help them cope with their immediate needs following the loss of their loved one. Currently, families receive $12,000 under the program.

Or...

Call Senate Democrats Bluff
Now is the time for Republicans in the Senate to "go for it" without timidity; we must not cower or worry about the Democrats' political reaction. The fact is, very soon we could see a vacancy on the Supreme Court of the United States. It's important that we put an end to these obstructionist tactics before we start piling up vacancies on the Supreme Court, as they are piling up in federal appellate courts around the country today.

We need to keep our promises to the American people. They expect us to act, not hide behind obscure parliamentary procedures and process. Americans voted back in November. Now they expect their senators to take a stand and vote, not to play petty, partisan process games.

Or...

Allen Deplores Political Gimmickry
"This procedural ambush to shut down legislative action in the U.S. Senate is a blatant political stunt. If the Democratic leaders were interested in discussing intelligence issues, they would have acted in a responsible manner. They chose deplorable political games rather than serious leadership.

"We need statesmanship and unity in the midst of this War on Terror rather than political gimmickry on such vital and important issues of improving on intelligence gathering and counterterrorism coordination.

Or...

Allen Calls for a "Paycheck Penalty" on Congress
“Taken together, I believe that my 3-point plan for the line-item veto, a balanced budget amendment, and a paycheck penalty will restore fiscal accountability and common sense to Washington. And, we will be better able to lower the tax burden on all Americans as well.

Or...

Senator George Allen Receives NVTC 2006 Chairman's Award 4/4/06
HERNDON, Va., April 5 /PRNewswire/ -- Virginia Senator George Allen received the NVTC 2006 Chairman's Award today at its Titans of Technology breakfast with more than 830 technology executives hosted by the Northern Virginia Technology Council (NVTC).

For a start...

191 posted on 04/14/2006 9:49:08 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Has the Bauer body count exceeded the Clinton body count?)

To: quantim; EDINVA; iceskater; xyz123; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; jla; Flora McDonald; ...

Get over your own self. He will be the nominee.

The big picture will be a smiling George Allen accepting the nomination.

192 posted on 04/14/2006 9:50:40 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Has the Bauer body count exceeded the Clinton body count?)

Sure, just as soon as you explain to me why I should keep arguing with someone who refuses to look at the facts.

193 posted on 04/14/2006 9:55:55 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Has the Bauer body count exceeded the Clinton body count?)

To: Corin Stormhands

Get over your own self.
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It's supposed to be "Get over yourself"

I'm sorry, is English not your first language?

By the way cheerleader outfits look silly on adults.

194 posted on 04/14/2006 10:24:38 PM PDT by Blackirish (Hillary is angry AND brittle.)

To: Corin Stormhands; Old_Mil; Blackirish

That's gonna leave a mark! But based on their "debating skills" I imagine said mark will blend it among many others.

I don't know if George Allen will be the nominee or not. And I really don't care when we haven't even had the '06 elections yet. But he's a good conservative, and he's got my support.

195 posted on 04/15/2006 5:20:02 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)

To: Corin Stormhands

OK, since you know who the nominee is, how about a hint on who the VP will be, the suspense is monumental.

196 posted on 04/15/2006 6:03:39 AM PDT by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)

To: quantim; Corin Stormhands

Since you're from Michigan, why don't you tell us more about our senator from Virginia? It's been quite an education so far.

197 posted on 04/15/2006 6:29:12 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)

LOL, I don't suppose you would be interested in trading Allen for Levin?

198 posted on 04/15/2006 6:37:50 AM PDT by quantim (If the Constitution were perfect, it wouldn't have included the Senate.)

I'm afraid you're gonna have to sweeten the pot a whole lot more. :-)

199 posted on 04/15/2006 7:05:37 AM PDT by Coop (Proud founding member of GCA - Gruntled Conservatives of America)

It's supposed to be "Get over yourself"

Call it poetic license.

200 posted on 04/15/2006 8:59:37 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (Has the Bauer body count exceeded the Clinton body count?)

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