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Arrival of aliens ousts U.S. workers
Washington Times ^ | 04-10-06 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 04/10/2006 4:31:56 AM PDT by Klickitat

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To: Iscool; mariabush

hey , just a FRiendly FReeper obsevation ,...

... on the subject , Quality of Work

when someone tells me they're good , I've replied ,...

"You can't hide your skills ,... I'll know by lunchtime if you're anygood!"


41 posted on 04/10/2006 5:53:49 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: KevinDavis

"I would like to know where in the Constitution that native born Americans have a right to a job..."

it doesn't and neither does it say that illegals have a "right" to cross our borders illegally and work "under the table", not pay taxes, receive free medical care, free education for their children and on and on and on...


42 posted on 04/10/2006 5:55:48 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: Iscool
What you do not understand is that the people that I hire set their own wage. They tell me what they will do the job for and I have to pay or go on to the next one.


I hired a Master electric an to rewire a house and you should see the mess that he made. Same with the plumber, sheet rock man. The only one that did a good job was the cabinet maker, but then he like to hunt and I could not keep him on the job. He lost his business and could not figure out the reason, because his work was beautiful and it was, but you never knew when he would show up.
43 posted on 04/10/2006 5:58:12 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: Dane

A labor force is not a commodity like oil. In most jobs the work must be done on site and most countries have considerable restrictions on foreigners who can do jobs in their country.

I would much rather pay higher prices if the money would go to poorer American citizens. Believe it or not, some of us actually care and are willing to help our fellow Americans.


44 posted on 04/10/2006 5:58:28 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Klickitat

Seal the borders. Tax remittances back to Mexico at a rate of 75%. If they want to work here and be here, they can become Americans (not Mexican-Americans, mind you, Americans). Otherwise, go home.


45 posted on 04/10/2006 5:59:06 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Ignorance of the 10th Amendment should disqualify a person from holding office or being a teacher)
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To: KevinDavis

"Well until there is bill that guarantees a that every native American has a right to a decent paying job, this argument is bunk"


what we do have are laws that require that the government secure the borders and deport illegals.

try again...


46 posted on 04/10/2006 6:00:03 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: Dad yer funny
That's right, but you have to stay right on top of them, and most men in this part of the country hate it when a woman is in charge, and tells them to redo or they do not get paid.
47 posted on 04/10/2006 6:00:58 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, over there, We won't be back 'til it's over Over there.")
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To: mariabush
There is one thing that you had better understand loud and clear, and that is this President has kept you safe from another terrorist attack.

This does not constitute an excuse for selling our sovereignty to the highest bidder. Period, the end.
48 posted on 04/10/2006 6:05:39 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Ignorance of the 10th Amendment should disqualify a person from holding office or being a teacher)
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To: mariabush

[replied in a FRiendly manner]

well , no , you don't need to stay right on top of them...

... if they see you check on them every half hour , the morning of the 1st day...

... and they're NOT OK with that , then they're "trouble" , and keep them on at your peril


49 posted on 04/10/2006 6:06:54 AM PDT by Dad yer funny
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To: MBB1984
Are we really importing poverty? With all the government bene's, free school, free health care, laons to buy homes, that doesn't sound like poverty.

If these folks can organize marches of 500,000, how long before they start organizing/suing to increase wages from the current "slave wages"? It will not take long.

Well, I guess Americans are fine with a decrease in their standard of living, brought on by a disgregard for rule of law and bleeding of our sovereignty. Happy elites, ruling over us peons.

How many illegals will be on the web, able to get a view of America/politics different from the MSM to counteract the Atzlan/free borders/Marxist/HateAmerica/Etc. activists who will steer the ship of their protests, organization, demand for amnesty, benefits, etc.?

Remember, if Indonesia, China, Nigeria, (pick almost any country and insert name here), were right over our borders, the same problem would be occurring, so I'm not picking on just Mexicans based on their p.c. categorizations. I'm saddened that they live with corruption, just as many do in so many countries. I am also saddened to see the same incivility and corruption taking such firm root here. It's going to cost us.

50 posted on 04/10/2006 6:07:29 AM PDT by elk
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To: Dane
Until 20-25 years ago, construction workers were overwhelmingly white. As for farm laborers, while there was the bracero program in the 1950s and 1960s, many migrant workers in that era were native born Americans. If illegal immigration were effectively stopped, employers would have to raise wages to draw native born Americans. Stopping illegals may drive up the cost of food and new housing, but there would be the offset of lower costs for public education, public hospitals, law enforcement, and welfare benefits.
51 posted on 04/10/2006 6:07:56 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Klickitat
I can see where the illegal immigrants are causing Bush's poll numbers to drop. Our poll number for him has absolutely dropped and until there is a stop put to these demonstration and the inciters, his numbers will continue to drop.

Actually, you could say we are totally pi$$ed off at what is being allowed to happen, all in the name of votes and campaign funds.

52 posted on 04/10/2006 6:10:21 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: mariabush
What you do not understand is that the people that I hire set their own wage. They tell me what they will do the job for and I have to pay or go on to the next one.

Well hell, just hire a bunch of illegal aliens. It is, after all, the smart business decision.

I trust a /sarc tag is not needed here.

On a related note, it now appears that the black community gets to learn what it's like to get shafted to benefit a more 'politically correct' group. I bet you won't hear that on the MSM nightly newscasts.
53 posted on 04/10/2006 6:12:03 AM PDT by JamesP81 (Ignorance of the 10th Amendment should disqualify a person from holding office or being a teacher)
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To: Dane
Hi DUmmie and I bet if you got your butt from behind the keyboard and down to New Orleans you could find a job in a second.

Hey Dane, the truth bites, doesn't it? Illegals cost Americans jobs.

54 posted on 04/10/2006 6:12:05 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: Dane

It must be a catch 22. Apparently, there are lots of job openings in many fields, but housing is very tight.


55 posted on 04/10/2006 6:13:58 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Dane
You are a native born American, how come you are not doing construction or picking vegetables.

You sound just as stupid as the liberals demanding that anyone who supports the Iraq War should enlist.

And for the exact same reason - you don't want confront the issue and just wish to distract from it.

56 posted on 04/10/2006 6:14:47 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: mariabush

They tell me what they will do the job for and I have to pay or go on to the next one."

And I'll bet you "go on to the next one" until you find one who will work for peanuts.


57 posted on 04/10/2006 6:16:17 AM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
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To: Dane
BTW, I have no experience in construction but don't have the hubris

Dane, you have more than enough hubris in other departments.

to tell people who actually run construction companies or farms how to run their businesses.

What part of "illegal" do you not understand here? I'm not telling them how to run their business. I am asking that they follow the laws THAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS HAVE PASSED.

58 posted on 04/10/2006 6:16:44 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: mariabush

DITTO to everythng you said, Maria. Some of these posters are here for ONE purpose only--to help the liberal cause.


59 posted on 04/10/2006 6:18:44 AM PDT by kitkat (The first step down to hell is to deny the existence of evil.)
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To: chris1
Sadly, I agree with you. I'm so angry and disappointed in Bush right now that I can't stand to look at him. When he shows up on TV I switch the channel. He looks like an idiot standing up there repeating his mantra "jobs Americans won't do".

On Fox and Friends this morning E.D. Hill said "they" (not sure who they is) contacted several employment agencies in Louisiana and Mississippi after this article came out and found the very same thing is happening with EVERY agency they contacted.

60 posted on 04/10/2006 6:18:50 AM PDT by Ima Lurker
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