San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control

NPR ^ | 4/6/2006 | Ted Robbins

[Tammy8]

the fencing has simply forced immigrants to take more dangerous routes through the mountains and scorching-hot deserts.

It would seem to me the solution is to fence the entire border, for the safety of the illegals, and in the best interest of the United States.

[Puppage]

the fencing has simply forced immigrants to take more dangerous routes through the mountains and scorching-hot deserts.

Yep, and bank vaults are simply forcing bank robbers to take more drastic measures, late in the evening.

[Semi Civil Servant]

"Good fences make good neighbors."

[Mrs.Liberty]

"Here in San Diego, we have proven that the border infrastructure system does indeed work," Henry says. "It is highly effective." It works for about 14 miles.....that is why the illegals head to the east county of San Diego to come in. That fence needs to run the length of the southern border of California.

[ncountylee]

"The men would come for a number of months out of every year and return (to Mexico)," Smith says. "Now, not only are the men staying, but they're bringing their families."

How about some supportive material, you filthy apologist.

[ZGuy]

The weakness is still the ocean. Anybody can take a boat from Mexico containing anyone and anything and motor it up to the U.S. The Customs agents agree this is a big problem and no practical solution to it has been proposed.

[untrained skeptic]

What this article shows it that those fences are a step in the right direction.

You cannot completely close prevent people from crossing the border. You can however keep making it harder, more dangeous, and more costly to cross, until you've reduced teh flow to a trickle.

An estimated 3,600 people have died crossing the U.S. border since the fences went up.

I am unhappy to hear that these people died as a result of the choice they made. However, they died as a result of their own illegal actions, and the US government has zero responsibility for their fate.

We are seeing evidence that the fences can work, they however need to be expanded.

I'm not convinced that fencing it the best solution in all areas. I also expect that these fences are going to need to be backed up with more manpower once they are expanded and become harder to get around.

However, the evidence shows they work.

[Disambiguator]

That fence needs to run the length of the southern border of California.

Correction:

That fence needs to run the length of the southern border of the US.

[capecodconservative]

I hereby notify the IRS, the Congress and our Eunuch-in-Chief that I am willing to pay an extra 1% in taxes for one year to build a 20 foot high and low [to cut off tunnels] all along the border.

[Rockitz]

It is keeping people in the United States who used to go back to Mexico. "The men would come for a number of months out of every year and return (to Mexico)," Smith says. "Now, not only are the men staying, but they're bringing their families."

This writer tries to discourage fences in the end with the unintended consequences quote.

Bottom line- The fences work where they are installed.

[DustyMoment]

An estimated 3,600 people have died crossing the U.S. border since the fences went up.

IOW, the fences are working!!! Sorry to say it, but those who died trying to break into our country sound like Darwin Award candidates.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

The weakness is still the ocean. Anybody can take a boat from Mexico containing anyone and anything and motor it up to the U.S. The Customs agents agree this is a big problem and no practical solution to it has been proposed.

But a lot fewer would be doing this.

There is a problem: securing the Mexican border will take a lot of money. The only likely way to justify the expense would be to justify it as security against terrorists infiltrating the U.S.

The problem: the terrorists are most likely to enter Canada as refugees, get Canadian citizenship and welfare benefits, and cross the border legally on a Canadian passport...

[tumblindice]

"The weakness is still the ocean."

Sharks. Sharks w/ lasers strapped to their heads.
No, you're right. I guess we should just `roll-over' then . . .

[bondjamesbond]

When Rudy Giuliani took over as Mayor, New York City was widely viewed as being "ungovernable". Crime was out of control, and there was seeminly nothing anybody could do about it.

Giuliani said "Nuts" to that, and proceeded, step by step, to enforce the law and reduce crime. After 8 years, New York City is the model that everybody else in the country follows.

Moral of the Story: Don't believe it when people say that it can't be done. That just means it is going to be more difficult. This job can be done.

[glowworm]

>That fence needs to run the length of the southern border of California.

Correction: >>That fence needs to run the length of the southern border of the US.

And that fence doesn't have to be more than 10 foot wide strands of razor wire. This could be laid down in a MONTH. Enough gaps need to be allowed for regular traffic and monitoring by Border Patrol agents between existing Ports of Entry. It doesn't make sense to have miles and miles of open fields and a few agents to patrol the whole area. To me, it means that transgressions are a wink and nod. Saying we are going to "beef up" over 5 years, with new agents and drones is insane.

If the borders of Iraq can be made secure, so can ours..

[appeal2]

Dolphins are much smarter and easier to train.

[appeal2]

Dolphins are much smarter and easier to train.

[Pa' fuera]

I hereby notify the IRS, the Congress and our Eunuch-in-Chief that I am willing to pay an extra 1% in taxes for one year to build a 20 foot high and low [to cut off tunnels] all along the border.

He's still issuing 1 million tourist visas per year to Mexicans, and those illegals come in even with the most secure fence imaginable - he has to start scanning Mexican visas on entry and confiscating them from the millions that are misusing them

[Pa' fuera]

The only likely way to justify the expense would be to justify it as security against terrorists infiltrating the U.S.

another way to justify it is that it will pay for itself by saving us money on detention facilities, health care, court proceedings, education, law enforcement, English classes, and all the other costs (financial and otherwise) that the illegals bring upon us