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Govermental Cost of Illegal Immigrants
Center for Immigration Studies | August 25, 2004 | Steven Camarota

Posted on 04/04/2006 6:51:20 PM PDT by cowboy_code

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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

tonk-a ping thanks


41 posted on 04/04/2006 9:57:21 PM PDT by bitt ('More bad news for the terrorists: This president is no Lyndon Johnson. He won't quit.')
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To: cowboy_code
Somehow illegals manage to scrape up $20 billion per year to send back to Mexico.

Mexico is Rich- Mexican wealthy play American taxpayers for suckers

Good thread for any that missed it. It should really make you mad.

Every dollar spent in U.S. taxes for social services for illegal aliens frees up additional cash to be sent south as part of the annual remittances which provided $20 billion in 2005. According to the CNN news show Lou Dobbs Tonight (3/21/05), "Remittances, as they're called, are expected to become Mexico's primary source of income this year, surpassing the amount of money that Mexico makes on oil exports for the first time ever."

42 posted on 04/04/2006 10:54:57 PM PDT by TigersEye (Sedition and treason are getting to be a Beltway fashion.)
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To: Gracey

Well, that's like throwing gas on the fire. lol

Isn't it just a hoot when the senators assure us that the illegals will have to pay a fine and pay back taxes? No doubt way too many of them will qualify for the earned income credit.


44 posted on 04/04/2006 11:15:37 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: cowboy_code; ConservativeDude; AZ_Cowboy; trubluolyguy; Do not dub me shapka broham

With conservativedude's permission, I'll borrow and amend his post from another thread.

I'll just get this out so that the GWB loyalists don't have to:

- if you oppose GWB, you are a RINO using DU and DNC talking points

- Reagan was no good on amnesty, either, and he was a conservative, so amnesty must be conservative

- Amnesty is better than having illegals go further 'underground'

Now...if the Bush loyalists have better arguments than those to SUBSTANTIVELY deal with this and not just bitch and moan at the author and those who agree with them, then there are a lot of us here who are all ears.

(While we're at it, I wonder if the accounting gurus who gave us the numbers for the prescription drugs benefit and the Social Security numbers for Mexican laborers factored in the amnestied illegals who will now officially become part of the welfare state?)


46 posted on 04/05/2006 1:21:53 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Freedom isn't free--no, there's a hefty f'in fee--and if you don't throw in your buck-o-5, who will?)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT


47 posted on 04/05/2006 3:05:47 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: cowboy_code

This is an important read and sort of defeats the entire "the cost of lettuce will increase" crowd.


48 posted on 04/05/2006 3:38:41 AM PDT by Peach
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To: Ladysmith

Thanks for the ping.

Reading all the stuff about the negative impact the illegals have had on us all it getting pretty depressing, isn't it?


49 posted on 04/05/2006 8:26:42 AM PDT by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!


50 posted on 04/05/2006 9:13:21 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Supernatural
Frankly, S, it's all very depressing right now.

This country is hardly what the Founding Fathers envisioned. They warned us of so much of this and yet here we are anyway. Socialism, removing God from the public forum, dumbing down in our public schools, rewriting history, the ol' slippery slope of our values, political correctness killing any ideas and dialog, the Constitution interpretted completely out of context... And I wish I could do more but I'm back in school because taxes and regulations makes businesses struggle to stay alive so our plant closed down and work shipped to Mexico. Yet, my taxes I STILL have to pay is supporting these ILLIGAL ALIENS and the government wants us to do MORE for them??! BULLSHIP! Send their a$$es back home, get that friggin' Wall built, and enforce our current laws, and don't expect us to pay for any more than that!

I am so fed to the teeth of it all.

51 posted on 04/05/2006 10:18:55 AM PDT by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS))
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To: trubluolyguy
But...but this can't possible be true, the FROBL's said that the illegals conribute more than they use!

Not only that, but we the taxpayer assume that cost:

Employers do not see the costs associated with less-educated immigrant workers because the costs are spread out among all taxpayers.

And if they were legalized, what would happen?

· If illegal aliens were legalized and began to pay taxes and use services like legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual fiscal deficit at the federal level would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total federal deficit of $29 billion.

Yep, Bush wants the American taxpayer to subsidize those businesses who benefit from cheap illegal labor.

52 posted on 04/05/2006 10:21:28 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: Peach
This is an important read and sort of defeats the entire "the cost of lettuce will increase" crowd.

I'd rather pay more for lettuce.

53 posted on 04/05/2006 10:22:13 AM PDT by dirtboy (Tagline under contruction. Fines doubled.)
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To: cowboy_code; ConservativeMan55; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; JulieRNR21; Cindy; Smartass; ...

MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HEADED TO  MEXICO
David M. Bresnahan  
April 1, 2006 
NewsWithViews.com 

Dear President Bush:
I'm  about to plan a little trip with my family and extended family,
and I would like  to ask you to assist me. I'm going to walk across
the border from the U.S. into  Mexico, and I need to make a few
arrangements. I know you can help with this.

I  plan to skip all the legal stuff like visas, passports, immigration
quotas and  laws. I'm sure they handle those things the same way you do
here. So, would you  mind telling your buddy, President Vicente Fox, that
I'm on my way? 

Please  let him know that I will be expecting the following:
1. Free medical care  for my entire family. 
2. English-speaking government bureaucrats for  all services I might need, 
whether I use them or not. 
3. All  government forms need to be printed in English. 
4. I want my kids to  be taught by English-speaking teachers. 
5. Schools need to include  classes on American culture and history. 
6. I want my kids to see the  American flag flying on the top of the flag 
pole at their school with the  Mexican flag flying lower down. 
7. Please plan to feed my kids at  school for both breakfast and lunch. 
8. I will need a local Mexican  driver's license so I can get easy access to
government services. 
9.  I do not plan to have any car insurance, and I won't make any effort to
learn  local traffic laws. 
10. In case one of the Mexican police officers  does not get the memo from 
Pres. Fox to leave me alone, please be sure that all  police officers speak
English.  
11. I plan to fly the U.S. flag  from my house top, put flag decals on my 
car, and have a gigantic celebration on  July 4th. I do not want any complaints 
or negative comments from the locals.  
12. I would also like to have a nice job without paying any taxes,  and don't
enforce any labor laws or tax laws. 
13. Please tell all the  people in the country to be extremely nice and
never say a critical word about  me, or about the strain I might place on the 
economy.  I know this is an  easy request because you already do all these things 
for all the people who come  to the U.S. from Mexico. I am sure that Pres. Fox 
won't mind returning the favor if you ask him nicely. However, if he gives
you any trouble, just invite him to go quail hunting with your V.P.

Thank you so much for your kind help.

Sincerely,
  David M. Bresnahan

   
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(Please FReepmail if you want on, or off, this list.   I certainly have no desire to increase anyone’s stress-level. Thanks!!!)

54 posted on 04/05/2006 10:53:20 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (...Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes

You're not going to get a "Holiday" card from the White House this year.


55 posted on 04/05/2006 11:26:27 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas- beyond your expectations!)
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To: Ladysmith

Watch the news. The politicians are very nervous about the illegal issue. Not the 'rats, the people that are SUPPOSED to be on our side.

The talk is all about people who usually vote for republicans voting for third-party people in the next election or staying home.

Our vote is the only weapon we have against them and they know it.

After we vote they do their business as usual until the next election cycle. But right now they are sweating.


56 posted on 04/05/2006 11:35:30 AM PDT by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Love your letter!


57 posted on 04/05/2006 11:37:02 AM PDT by Supernatural (A 1,000 lies can be told, but the truth is still the truth.)
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To: Supernatural
I got that in email today... Thought I'd share...
58 posted on 04/05/2006 12:01:09 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (...Other People's Money))
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To: SwinneySwitch
I was kinda hoping for a 'fence', instead.


59 posted on 04/05/2006 12:02:57 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (...Other People's Money))
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To: Seadog Bytes; potlatch; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; devolve; OXENinFLA; bitt; La Enchiladita; LUV W

Matricula Consular ID card

Issues

The Mexican Matricula Consular ID card is an ID card issued to Mexican foreign nationals in the United States. The matricula consular is useful in the United States only for illegal aliens, because legal immigrants by definition have legal U.S. government-issued documents.

After 9/11, the Mexican Government realized that they could not gain another U.S. amnesty for illegal aliens. Instead, they launched a lobbying campaign to gain acceptance of the ID at state and local levels and from U.S. banks.

D.A. King's 'secure' Matricula Consular ID card U.S. Congressman Tom Tancredo said, "The only people who benefit from having such an ID are those who have come illegally and have broken our laws." This ID card is essentially a back door attempt at a stealth amnesty and a direct challenge to the jurisdiction of Congress over U.S. immigration policy. Roberto Rodriguez Hernandez, director of the Mexican card program was quoted as saying "It's necessary to push the need for an amnesty at all levels."

A 'secure' Matricula Consular ID card The matricula card is not a secure document (the Matricula Cards on this page are of American citizens). Mexico does not authenticate documents used to obtain the ID against computerized data files in Mexico. No major bank in Mexico accepts the card to open an account and the cards are recognized as IDs in only 10 of Mexico's 32 states and districts.

Now, Guatemala, Honduras, Poland, Peru and El Salvador, aware of Mexico's success, have begun or are considering issuing cards of their own.

Jack Henzie's 'secure' Matricula Consular ID card City liability insurance companies almost certainly won't cover liability associated with accepting such a card, since it is a violation of Federal law to accept the card. So if a city accepts the card and a citizen is injured by an illegal alien, the citizen could likely sue individual city council members for their personal assets and life savings.

Specifically, a state or local government official or employee who provides any benefit or service to such a presenter possesses the criminal intent (mens rea) necessary for a felony indictment under Section 274 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which provides criminal penalties for any act that "encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law."

 

60 posted on 04/05/2006 12:22:23 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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