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Irish were Latinos of their day
The Denver Post ^ | 4/01/2006 | Bob Ewegen

Posted on 04/04/2006 5:34:55 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: stormlead

I am always amazed that people are no longer educated, but are politicized. Do your own research. There are three recognized races. There are several ethnic groups within the racial groups. Ethnic considerations are not assumed to be "racist". Try Anthropology 101 for starters, and if you choose to throw "race" around, at the very least, get a basis.


102 posted on 04/04/2006 6:19:16 PM PDT by alarm rider (Irritating leftists as often as is humanly possible....)
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To: neverdem
So, using Ewegen's logic whatever happened in the 19th century is OK for today. Would he be the first to suggest repealing the 19th amendment?
103 posted on 04/04/2006 6:19:58 PM PDT by manwiththehands (I will remember in November.)
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To: durasell

LOL! You got that right!


104 posted on 04/04/2006 6:20:41 PM PDT by gotribe (Just tired of going easy on islam)
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To: durasell

You just haven't had good Irish cooking, have you?


105 posted on 04/04/2006 6:20:42 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: HungarianGypsy
The difference between the Irish and the illegal immigrants, though. The Irish came through Ellis Island and weren't sneaking over the border to get in. There's that whole legal thing again.

Not really. When most of the Irish came, (1830s to 1870s) there was no such thing as an Ellis Island facility and immigration was not really controlled in any way. Ships docked at there destinations be it New York, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore or where ever, the the passengers basically got off and went where they could. There were customs offices that looked a cargo for duties, but no INS service that checked passengers. It was pretty much an "open borders" policy.

106 posted on 04/04/2006 6:21:03 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Michael.SF.
Sorry friend, but the Irish fought on both sides of the war. Savannah, Ga. had a huge Irish influx, possibly third in the country after NY and Boston.

If I'm not mistaken the members of the 69th NY were killed by the score at Sharpsbury by the 6th Louisiana. Both Irish.

107 posted on 04/04/2006 6:21:36 PM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: John Filson
Mashed potato and a dubious sausage? I'll pass. (Actually, I have had pretty good Irish cooking. It's not bad. A little heavy, but not bad.)
108 posted on 04/04/2006 6:22:15 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: trubluolyguy

"You assume I am politically correct because I take exception to someone using the term "wetback?" Guess what, it doesn't just apply to South Americans. If I saw someone calling any race or "ethnic group" by putdowns, I'd call them on it too. It doesn't matter if YOU think it's racist, it matters if those around you do."

These are foreigners, sneaking across our borders.

It is a smuggling term about foreigners, I don't see any reason to be overly sensitive about our language describing criminal behavior of foreigners against the US.

I think it is a pretty mild term for some criminal that is a foreigner, sneaking into your country.

Calling the French frogs when we get annoyed at them seems much worse, since they are just citizens acting in their nations own interest, without committing crimes on our soil.


109 posted on 04/04/2006 6:23:03 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: John Filson

Activists on the left have made it that way, but I say we shouldn't let them dictate the language of our debate.

I agree with you completely on that, and we see it everyday, as with leftists trying to censor legitimate arguments by labeling them, 'hate speech'.

Technically speaking, 'wetback' isn't racist, but I'd maintain that its derogatory. I'll argue about illegals with an illegal- but chances are I'll lose the argument, or at least their attention, if I call them a 'wetback'. I'd like to think that people turn to FR to form opinions, and language can make a difference


110 posted on 04/04/2006 6:23:43 PM PDT by stormlead
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To: neverdem

The Irish, the Germans, and the previous waves of immigrants came here to be . . . . . . . . . . . . proud Americans.


111 posted on 04/04/2006 6:23:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: neverdem

GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!

In 1840 there were probably no immigration laws or they were not really of any national interest at the time.

Most Irishmen who came here wanted to be Americans, spoke English, and were given a pick and shovel as soon as they stepped off the boat or a rifle and musket and put in the military.

Back then the U.S. was largely underpopulated and there was an immensity of open land and a great need of labor - skilled and unskilled.

Comparing the socio-economic times of the mid nineteenth century with those of the early twentieth century is like comparing apples and oranges.

But those individuals who don't believe in borders, ignore the reality of the war on terror and its border implications, and equate individuals who have no wish to be Americans - just to suck off the American public and steal American dollars to funnel into some third-world rathole are totally out of touch with reality and arguing with them over this subject is like spitting in the wind.


112 posted on 04/04/2006 6:24:16 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: gotribe

Immigration should be based on the quality of the food they immigrants bring over.


113 posted on 04/04/2006 6:24:17 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

they = the


114 posted on 04/04/2006 6:24:46 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell

You've got a point. Mexican food is more complex than most others, and has French, Italian, Portuguese, and native American influences. Combine the best of all those and it can be very good. I just think Irish food has its own charm, especially when done right. Mexican food has plenty of dubious sausage, anyway! (So does Italian, etc...)


115 posted on 04/04/2006 6:24:57 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: John Filson

I'm a guy still mourning the demise of the Cuban-Chinese restaurants. Now there was some complex food combinations if you go creative while ordering.


116 posted on 04/04/2006 6:27:08 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Acts 2:38

I believe all my ancestors, since the census began, were classified as "W" for white, at least on those that are public record (1930 & before).


117 posted on 04/04/2006 6:28:16 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Hey, Washington, which laws do I get to break?)
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To: stormlead
I'll argue about illegals with an illegal- but chances are I'll lose the argument, or at least their attention, if I call them a 'wetback'

I see this a different way, that's all. The ability to deride that which is destroying us can be an important tool. It's one of the first tools the politically-correct movements have sought to destroy, along with the other tools they want to take from us, such as firearms.

Anyway, you argue your way, I'll argue mine. We don't have to agree.

118 posted on 04/04/2006 6:28:28 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; neverdem
Bob Ewegen seems long on opinion and short on facts.

What a load of Blarney

119 posted on 04/04/2006 6:29:29 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Is this a nation, or a halfway house for illegals ... ?)
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To: Acts 2:38
Human nature gives us the preference for one's own "tribe."

"Human nature" would also have us copulating on street corners, defecating in the streets, and murdering our enemies with our bare hands. Our "souls" allow us to rise above that. And, as for "preference for one's own "tribe", human nature would have you preferring Charlie Manson to Henry Bonilla.

120 posted on 04/04/2006 6:31:59 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Hey, Washington, which laws do I get to break?)
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