Grass Roots Conservatives Weigh In On Immigration (GOPUSA Survey)

GOPUSA ^ | April 3, 2006 | Bobby Eberle

[blackie]

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant!

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Tell Waffling RINO's : No Amnesty!
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=13155

Wrong Way Whino's (RINO's)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607789/posts?page=475#475

[BookaT]

I was thinking about this due the Rush today.

I have a couple of points I would like to make. I will try to keep them short and will be open for discussion on these ideas.

First, if there is any type of program that makes it easier for the ILLEGAL ALIENS to gain any sort of status, wouldn't that be discriminatory to other races or nationalities? I say yes.

#2 the premise that it would be impossible to send them all back is BS. It would cost money and take time to do it. I will cover the money thing is a very rough way.

Say it takes $1000 to re-patriate the ILLEGALS on average. Lets say there are 10 Million of them(I am not convinced of this number, this could be thrown out to make it seem like a monumental task to remove them) Bust out the calculator(Start, all programs, accessories, calcualtor) and it tells me that equals $10 Billion. Ok Ok let us just triple it for good measure.

The money will come from the companies that are caught employing them. At $5000 a pop it may make the Law Breaking Employers(Look this is a a form of TAX EVASION) think about hiring someone off of the dole roles.

But the Americans wont do this work. Yes they will if they are made to be a little more uncomfortable. We, well not us, but the democrats have locked in their base by making it comfortable to be on welfare and unemployed. It has gone on for long enough that there is no shame in taking money from other people and thinking it is a right.

But who is going to do all this work? Bingo! Halliburton will. Or I will. I will hire independent contractors to search out ILLEGAL ALIENS and LAW BREAKING EMPLOYERS. I will pay them $500 a head for an ILLEGAL and $5000 for reporting an LAW BREAKING EMPLOYER. Of course I will be collecting at least that.

Ok my questions that need to be answered.

How many people in the USA are able to work that are not working? Is it over 10 million? 275 million x 5%ish that is about 13 million unemployed.

But it will raise the price of everything for the poor consumers. I don't believe it will be that bad and if it is ..SO WHAT! What they are really saying is that it will cause the price to go where it should really be anyway.

This whole ILLEGAL thing is like cheating the system. It really pisses me off.

Where are the Leaders? Don't even get me started on term limits. These old farts need to make way for some New True American blood. Both parties. Time to thin the herd.

But. how do we do that?

[imintrouble]

Can anyone here tell me how the Cuban people are admitted once they "land" on USA soil? Are they documented immediately as legal aliens, or as refugees, or what?

Is there a time limit on them before they are made permanent residents...and finally naturalized?

Our local paper was offering that the employers in California want amnesty (of course) and that it is cheap labor with the argument that we would have to pay higher prices for "regular workers". The undocumented people will cost the average public more money in the long run educating their children, paying their medical assistance, housing assistance, no insurance for driving, etc. It doesn't compute!

[deport]

How many people in the USA are able to work that are not working? Is it over 10 million? 275 million x 5%ish that is about 13 million unemployed

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You going to count the children as unemployed?... I think the under 19 age group represents about 25%+ of the total population....

[Wonder Warthog]

"First, if there is any type of program that makes it easier for the ILLEGAL ALIENS to gain any sort of status, wouldn't that be discriminatory to other races or nationalities? I say yes."

No. "Illegal Aliens" are of all races and nationalities--it just happens to be that the biggest chunk of them is Mexican. But they ALL need to be deported.

[TheForceOfOne]

Our local paper was offering that the employers in California want amnesty (of course) and that it is cheap labor with the argument that we would have to pay higher prices for "regular workers".

I'm sure American slave owners made the same argument. Then we had a little war to settle the issue.

[Rakkasan1]

we could use more Chubacabras

[HiJinx]

Ground Truth Ping!

[raybbr]

"On the question of whether a guest worker plan should be implemented knowing that millions of anchor babies will be born the respondents said............."

Here those crickets chirping?????

[blackie]

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[VU4G10]

NO AMNESTY FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS

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[Jo Nuvark]

VU4G10, raybbr, HiJinx, Rakkasan1, TheForceOfOne, Wonder Warthog, deport, blackie, 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub, BookaT, imintrouble,

Sorry to post and run, but needed to get to the Japanese Consulate in Los Angeles.

Thanks for the contact info VU

Attached is a pink slip that I mailed to 53 congressmen and my two senators on Saturday.

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pink slip

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Dear ____________________________

As your employer, I must ask that you improve your performance in the following areas.

1. No amnesty to illegals. Not now. Not ever.
2. Secure the borders.
3. Deport illegals.
4. Only allow immigrants to enter the United States who:
a. have OBEYED OUR LAWS by standing in line.
b. have been SCREENED for communicable diseases.
c. ASSIMILATE by learning English and by paying taxes.

Failure to comply may result in termination of your services.

Registered Voter (City), California
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I also think we should give AMNESTY to EMPLOYERS so they can transition their illegal employees. One year should do it.
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HiJinx & Blackie... there is a Minuteman "SNOWBALL" caravan being planned. I'm just waiting for the date, time and rendezvous points.
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raybbr... Anchor babies shouldn't threaten anyone. Children should stay witih their parents. If parents are deported, the children go as well. If they come back to the U.S. when they are adults, fine.
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imintrouble... Because of human rights issues, Cuban refugees do not get instant citizenship. They simply get assylum. It's not the same as Fox sending his people here in order to keep his economy going.
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BookaT... There may possibly be a painful and sacrificial "effect" when we adjust our worker population. But we can't demand something to be fixed and then say "oh, I hope it doesn't change anything". It took a long time for this to break. It's going to take some pain and inconvenience to correct.

[Jo Nuvark]

FYI: India is in the process of deporting 20 million muslims. So, yes, you can
deport vast millions of illegals. I would like to see a comparison of costs to keep
them vs. the cost to deport them. Remember, many illegals siphon resources from
our work force as well as, legal, police, medical, social and educational systems
at a cost incalculable.

http://www.brothersjudd.com/blog/archives/2003/01/not_tolerable_1.html

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Tell Waffling RINO's : No Amnesty!
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=13155

Our U.S. Senators are about to LEGALIZE 13 million
illegal immigrants -- and I'm outraged!

As you know, Grassfire has been working to secure our
borders for months now. Just last Friday, Ron De Jong
and I were on Capitol Hill delivering hundreds of
thousands of petitions to Senators.

But when I turned on the television and saw 1 million
people (many illegal aliens) protesting in our streets,
demanding that illegal immigrants be granted legal status,
I became outraged. Some flew foreign flags ABOVE the
U.S. flag, chanting "Mexico," and even had the
audacity to carry signs saying "We Built America."

Even worse -- OUR SENATORS said these protests influenced
them to support granting illegals legal status!

We cannot let ILLEGAL immigrants have more
voice in this Senate debate than citizens like you and me.

Surveys show that more than 80 percent of American citizens
oppose any type of amnesty legislation,
yet many in the Senate are pushing what would amount
to the largest "guest worker" and "amnesty" bill
ever seen in our nation's history!

Our leaders are out of touch, and we need
to remind them who they represent--not the illegal aliens
they are pandering to, but rather the citizens of our
nation who voted them into office.

That is why we are urging all members of our Grassfire team
to join with us in sending a strong message to our key
leaders: "Stop the Illegal Immigration Invasion".

Thanks in advance for your quick action.

Steve Elliott, President
Grassfire.org Alliance

Today's Headlines at Grassfire.org:

http://www.grassfire.org

Final Results (Registered FReepers only)
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=144;results=1

Free Republic Opinion Poll:
Do you support or oppose H.R. 4437, the Border Protection, Antiterrorism, and Illegal Immigration Control Act of 2005?

FReeper Member Opinion

Support 83.6% 1,499
Support = Enforcement of existing immigation laws.

Oppose 16.4% 295
Oppose = Reward illegal "guest workers" with a "path" to citizenship.

100.0% 1,794

Wrong Way Whino's (RINO's)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607789/posts?page=475#475

[Brad’s Gramma]

Bump that, Tonk...

[Jo Nuvark]

Awesome 68-69...

I sent my "pink slip". I hope it does some good.

NOTE: If California belongs to Mexico then Mexico belongs to Spain. This logic is NOT.

[Howie66]

All I know is that I have no problem with those that have a honest to goodness desire to come to America, to become full-fledged Americans and raise their families to be an integral and contributing part of our national fabric. To these people I say "Welcome, Neighbor! Glad to have you here". To think any differently is to be decidedly Un-American.

To those that seek to come into our country for the sole purpose of financial "opportunity" (mainly at the EXPENSE of the TAX-PAYING CITIZENRY through Medicaid, Medicare, our educational systems and so on), with no intention of learning the language, culture, or showing a complete lack of respect for our LAWS, our VALUES, our TRADITIONS and OUR FLAG please take your sorry carcasses back to whatever third-world pig-sty that you came from. You are neither wanted nor are you welcome.

If there is any question about what my position is on this, you really are stuck on stupid.