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The gospel according to U2 and Bono
Scotsman.com News ^ | Mon 3 Apr 2006 | STEPHEN MCGINTY

Posted on 04/03/2006 9:29:05 AM PDT by fgoodwin

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To: Huck

Hmmmm.LOL. Don't know about the Grateful Dead.


21 posted on 04/03/2006 10:09:27 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: fgoodwin

Polikarpov U2


22 posted on 04/03/2006 10:17:45 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Always Right

Bono is typically liberal in that, instead of reaching into his own very deep pockets, he's extremely generous with other peoples' money.


23 posted on 04/03/2006 10:17:52 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: fgoodwin

The real sad thing is being preoccupied with 1985 in an effort to be hip.


24 posted on 04/03/2006 10:23:28 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: fgoodwin

Used to be Phil Collins was going to save the world ..Now its Bobo( Bono)--To me they are both blockheads


25 posted on 04/03/2006 10:27:19 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Tribune7
I love U2, but Bono is filthy stinking rich. What was it the carpenter said? Something like.. "Many on that final day who were first in this life will be last, and many who were last will be first."

But at least he will be in line to the gates! LOL

26 posted on 04/03/2006 10:29:49 AM PDT by Windsong (Jesus Saves, but Buddha makes incremental backups)
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To: Huck
This Dead song would work
27 posted on 04/03/2006 10:30:18 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Windsong
I love U2, but Bono is filthy stinking rich.

Bono seems to be at least trying to do right and doesn't suck up to the left. He has said nice things about Dubya and IIRC Jesse Helms.

And the funny thing is I never really liked their music.

28 posted on 04/03/2006 10:35:48 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: fgoodwin

U2 seems a little old to attract a younger crowd to the church...?


29 posted on 04/03/2006 10:46:08 AM PDT by nk_47
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To: manwiththehands; OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; P-Marlowe
But something happened ... then they came out with "I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For" sometime in the early 90's. I don't know if they sold out or what, but I wouldn't call them a "Christian" rock band now.

I'd call them blatently honest. They talk about their struggles for faith in ways that the Christian music doesn't dare. Look at their two most recent albums - All That You Can't Leave Behind and How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb. The Christian imagery - and raw intensity - blows past most of the saccharine crap played on Christian radio stations. A lot of their songs are blatently explicit examinations of faith in God in the light of a horribly screwed up world (e.g. "Peace on Earth" or "When I look at the World"). About the only place you find that kind of refreshing honesty - where people are willing to admit to God that they're baffled at how bad things are in the world - is in the Psalms (e.g. Ps. 73). There aren't very many artists on Christian radio who sing above the level of "Jesus-is-my-boyfriend" crap.

Now, I don't know about the spiritual beliefs of U2. It sure seems like Bono gets it - he understands the concept that God operates through grace, and not karma (see, e.g., Grace). At the end of the day, however, where Bono stands is between him and God. I know, myself, I've found his music to be quite uplifting and worth listening to while I run.

30 posted on 04/03/2006 10:51:45 AM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: nk_47
U2 seems a little old to attract a younger crowd to the church...?

Not when you consider that my generation has to reach back to the 1980's to find really good rock bands. The 1990's was crap like Britney Spears (shudders).

31 posted on 04/03/2006 10:53:36 AM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: jude24
Yeah. I personally favor their first three albums: Boy, October, War.

It just seems like they've been used here and there to attract people for quite a while now. Isn't there anyone newer who provokes at least somewhat like them?
32 posted on 04/03/2006 10:58:38 AM PDT by nk_47
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To: nk_47
Isn't there anyone newer who provokes at least somewhat like them?

Not that I know of.

I remember talking with a guy in his mid-thirties at my old church a few weeks ago. We were discussing what his kids had on their iPods, and I was discussing what was on mine as he solicited my suggestions for good music. (We were complaining that too much Christian music is supeficial and unlistenable.) He was astounded to find that I was listening to "what [he] grew up on."

33 posted on 04/03/2006 11:02:01 AM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: fgoodwin
"In February, he joined Mr Bush at the national prayer breakfast in Washington, and told the gathered clergy: "I'm certainly not here as a man of the cloth, unless that cloth is leather ... I'm the first to admit that there's something unnatural, something unseemly, about rock stars mounting the pulpit and preaching at presidents, and then disappearing to their villas in the south of France."

I just recently learned Bono was a professing Christian and read a good interview with him. To me, it appears his faith is a private matter, yet one he certainly doesn't hide as it permeates his life. What I've heard/read from him always is very humble regarding issues of faith and Christianity. Reminds me of the bumpersticker about Christians being saved, not perfect.

The more I learn about him the more I like him....guess I should finally really listen to his music!

34 posted on 04/03/2006 11:14:46 AM PDT by sweet_diane (Bush bashers do not speak for me.)
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To: jude24; OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; P-Marlowe

I stopped buying U2 records years ago but I was operating under old assumptions. If indeed they are as honest as you claim to be I'll have to give them another listen. I, too can't stand the pap on most Christian music stations. I think most Christians are afraid of being brutally honest with themselves and others in the church about matters of real faith. I don't know why. Somehow I don't think God is easily offended by what our puny minds think up.


35 posted on 04/03/2006 11:18:37 AM PDT by manwiththehands (I will remember in November.)
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To: Stark_GOP
Silly me. I try to live my life by the Word of God found in the Bible instead of the lyrics found in a rock song.

Sometimes they are one and the same.

36 posted on 04/03/2006 11:34:56 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: manwiththehands; OrthodoxPresbyterian; xzins; P-Marlowe
I think most Christians are afraid of being brutally honest with themselves and others in the church about matters of real faith. I don't know why.

I think it's because brutal honesty about our struggles gets in the way of the facade of respectability we try to put forward. Christians are expected to look like they have it all together, and have all the answers. A True Christian (TM) never has his faith shaken by events. He never struggles with sin and temptation. He always wants wake up an hour early to have his Morning Quiet Times (TM). In other words, the image of the True Christian (TM) is about as realistic as that of G.I. Joe.

Another thing, I think, is that a person who asks the tough questions is a threat to many Christians, who really aren't sure of the answers themselves. This is too bad since, if the Church is unwilling or unable to provide answers, the local University offers some.

37 posted on 04/03/2006 11:35:19 AM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: P-Marlowe

Read his words yourself and decide. http://www.data.org/archives/000774.php

Then read Christ's own words in Matthew 25:31-40.


38 posted on 04/03/2006 11:53:01 AM PDT by DryFly
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To: DryFly; P-Marlowe
???

Sure seems like Bono takes Mt. 25:31-40 quite seriously.

39 posted on 04/03/2006 12:07:59 PM PDT by jude24 ("The Church is a harlot, but she is my mother." - St. Augustine)
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To: jude24
A True Christian (TM) never has his faith shaken by events. He never struggles with sin and temptation. He always wants wake up an hour early to have his Morning Quiet Times (TM). In other words, the image of the True Christian (TM) is about as realistic as that of G.I. Joe.

I think that it's accepted that Christians aren't perfect--in that detached "of course, but..." way. But it's easier and morbidly more fun to judge. There's also that tricky unsaid belief that if I (as an example) look put-together, I'm helping to set a helpful standard, even if it feels unnatural to me.

But back to the subject. I am glad Bono has been speaking about Africa...
40 posted on 04/03/2006 12:17:19 PM PDT by nk_47
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