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FairTax offers more freedom, more wealth
LA Chronicle ^ | April 2, 2006 | Mike Dickson

Posted on 04/03/2006 3:27:33 AM PDT by Man50D

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To: JAKraig

You're VERY right!!!


41 posted on 04/03/2006 4:56:09 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right

Neither you nor anyone else has ever been able to show that and here have been many studies by recognized economists that show just the opposite.

More of your horse-puckey!!


42 posted on 04/03/2006 4:57:47 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right

As you know Rightie, the prebate is a reefund of tax paid not "welgfare" in any respect. No more so that your April 15 tax refund from the IRS.

Why post such nonsense? Are you eager to be observed as a fool or a fraud???


43 posted on 04/03/2006 5:00:55 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right

As has been shown repeatedly to you the amount paid in the form of embedded tax is mush, much smaller that the amount under the FairTax.

The requirements for the prebate are a valid SSN and a lawful residency - neither of which most illegals would have.

Several people have pointed out to you that the prebate is nothing like welfare, so why keep repeating that refrain???


44 posted on 04/03/2006 5:05:01 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: tpaine

There are people that will lose out financially under the FairTax, just as there are losers under any radical tax change.

There are many, many people that benefit from the existing system. Their benefit pales in comparison to what it costs everybody else, however. In money and liberty.

So if you define "rational" opposition as something that has first considered the overall good of Americans, then I've not seen any that qualified as "rational" either.


45 posted on 04/03/2006 5:39:11 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~)
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To: tpaine
>>>"I hope we both can agree on which belief is actually insane."<<<<

Since leaving the Military my job has changed.

The Military has a mission and so do we, they keep us Free we are supposed to keep the Politicians as Honest and Powerless as possible.

I just wish we a GITMO for the likes of Rockefeller, Durbin, Kennedy, Fiengold, Fienstein, Clinton, lil tommy Daschle, or at least a wall we could....

TT
46 posted on 04/03/2006 6:21:08 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: pigdog
Untrue ... and you know it. No such thing was ever assumed (or shown). That's just more of your horse-puckey!!!

Right tinker. Keep snorting your pixie dust. I provide sourced material and all you can say is 'untrue' to dispute it. You are so full of it, it is not even worth reading any of your other anal replies.

47 posted on 04/03/2006 6:25:00 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Man50D
Built-in taxes raise the price of everything you buy. Corporations simply pass the cost along to the consumer. With those built-in taxes eliminated, prices will fall.

If we could only depend on the honesty of all business including corporations to pass along this reduction I would have more faith in the Fair Tax. I just have little faith that many business will pass the reduction along. Guess we have to give it a try.

48 posted on 04/03/2006 8:07:49 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Man50D

Don't you guys ever get tired of spamming this board with your crap?


49 posted on 04/03/2006 8:10:53 PM PDT by Philistone (Turning lead into gold...)
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To: Always Right
What The FairTax Book fails to mention is that prices can only fall this sharply if companies cut wages. I asked Jorgenson about this, and he agreed. Say your salary is $100,000 a year today, but you take home $80,000 after taxes. Your company is still paying that extra $20,000. In a FairTax world, it will save that money, and be able to lower its prices accordingly, only if it can reduce your salary to $80,000. In other words, your take-home pay is the same as before

You hit the nail on the head. I knew something was wrong and I just didn't see it. This needs lots more thought.

50 posted on 04/03/2006 8:26:12 PM PDT by Logical me (Oh, well!!!)
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To: Logical me
If we could only depend on the honesty of all business including corporations to pass along this reduction I would have more faith in the Fair Tax. I just have little faith that many business will pass the reduction along. Guess we have to give it a try.

You can't depend on honesty of companies. They don't base their bottom line on altruism. They base it on profit. You can depend on competition between businesses to make that profit. Competition will cause a small number of businesses in an industry to pass the reduction onto consumers. The others will lose business if they don't follow suit.
51 posted on 04/04/2006 3:50:21 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Man50D

It has nothing to do with 'honesty' of businesses. It has to do with the tax savings going mostly to the individuals, thus the businesses don't have the savings to pass on to individuals.


52 posted on 04/04/2006 4:03:56 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Philistone
Don't you guys ever get tired of spamming this board with your crap?

Do you get tired of the government using the oppressive IRS taking more or your money with its incredibly complex tax code?
53 posted on 04/04/2006 4:07:31 AM PDT by Man50D
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To: Always Right

Sorry, but there was no such assumption by any FairTax researcher as to what would occur as a result of the FairTax. Your so-called "sourced" material was merely a series of attacks launched by you and other anti-FairTax members of the SQL Squads.

The only assumptions the researcher made were for the purposes of his modelling software - not the real world. Nor did he ever make such a prediction as some of you are also wrongly stating.

Your comments are still horse-puckey.


54 posted on 04/04/2006 7:57:08 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: Always Right
"It has nothing to do with 'honesty' of businesses."

... he said, speaking for his own business & its practices ...

55 posted on 04/04/2006 8:00:52 AM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
Sorry, but there was no such assumption by any FairTax researcher as to what would occur as a result of the Sorry, but there was no such assumption by any FairTax researcher as to what would occur as a result of the FairTax. FairTax. Your so-called "sourced" material was merely a series of attacks launched by you and other anti-FairTax members of the SQL Squads.

It was sourced in Money Magazine and confirmed in e-mail sent to a freeper by the fairtax researcher.

The only assumptions the researcher made were for the purposes of his modelling software

Gee, I thought you said no such assumptions were made. You can't keep your story straight. I can't blame you, you are so full of it, it would be tough to.

- not the real world. Nor did he ever make such a prediction as some of you are also wrongly stating.

Umm, no you were the one who had no clue what the difference was between a prediction and an assumption. I said assumption and you kept calling it a prediction. But we needn't go into history of the foolish posts you make. There is only so much bandwidth.

Your comments are still horse-puckey.

Of which you offer no refute. Of course you can't, because it is a well-established fact. Shoot, Boortz has admitted it. Most of your fairtax buddies have admitted it. You are the last one stuck on stupid.

56 posted on 04/04/2006 8:08:54 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

It appeared in a magazine article by an anti-FairTax writer and was bvery probably taken from the nonsense you SQL Squad members kept hammering away on in FR. That's hardly a "source".

The economist himself made no such statement and has frequently said that the FairTax is preferable since it boosts the economy to a greater extent. He made no assumptions that wages would be reduced in the real world as a result of the FairTax but only as a mechanism used in his model software so my statement was quite correct. Your claims he found that wages would fall are the claims in error - but that's par for the course with you it seems.

Nor has Boortz "admitted" any such thing. You merely can't comprehend what he has said. But, hey, misstating things is your stock in trade. Along with shovelling out horse-puckey ...


57 posted on 04/04/2006 4:40:52 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
It appeared in a magazine article by an anti-FairTax writer and was bvery probably taken from the nonsense you SQL

It was a mostly favorable article to the fairtax. You are truly deranged.

58 posted on 04/04/2006 5:14:20 PM PDT by Always Right
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To: Always Right

"... mostly favorable ..."????

Yeah, right!!! Certainly one of us is "deranged" - however it's you. The article was nothing but a hitpiece.


59 posted on 04/04/2006 6:06:51 PM PDT by pigdog
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To: pigdog
The article was nothing but a hitpiece.

OK, then where is the AFFT rebuttal to this article???? AFFT always refutes negative articles which are published about it. AFFT could have easily contacted Jorgenson in the last 6-7 months and cleared all this up. AFFT won't refute it because there is no refuting it. Boortz has admitted it is misrepresentated. 90% of FreeRepublic fairtaxes have admitted it. Dr. Jorgenson has admitted it. It has been exposed in a major magazine article. It has been exposed as a lie on freerepublic for many years prior to this. But AFFT remains silent on this issue. I would give you $500 if you can get AFFT to clear this up with Jorgenson. I know they won't, because they are lying bastards who have been caught in a lie and it would ruin a major part of their propaganda if they had to be honest on this point.

60 posted on 04/04/2006 8:01:37 PM PDT by Always Right
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