Americans seeking jobs in booming Bangalore, India

MSNBC ^ | Apr 2, 2006 | Gautam Singh / AP

[oceanview]

the only unions Lucent had were people who did telecommunications installation work. mone of their technology people - their engineers, etc - were unionized.

[oceanview]

right, they said the same thing when china was making sneakers and xmas tree lights and brooms and toys. look at them now.

is all about spotting a trend.

[indianrightwinger]

And the reason you can do such hand-me-down MFG in the US anymore is not because Americans are incapable or unwilling, it is jus that the regulations and unions made it impossible.

[Siena Dreaming]

Just don't drink the water.

[Fitzcarraldo]

the US tech industry is on the glide path to oblivion.

Americans will be the world's cheap-labor force of mid-21st century.

[Fishing-guy]

The local Indian doctor went back to India for a visit. Then he was stuck there, because he got the plague.

[oceanview]

http://www.todaysengineer.org/2005/Sep/pulse.asp

as I have been saying for a while - the trends show americans are simply leaving the field.

[toddlintown]

"Prague is beautiful if you go to the Czech Republic."

And if you don't go? Is it still beautiful?

[Aliska]

Then he was stuck there, because he got the plague.

Yikes. Can't exactly say he had it coming. Did he survive it?

[Clock King]

Despite the ..., unsteady electrical supply, ...

Oh those evil American Power and Oil companies. Keeping us Americans with heat and cooking gas and car fuel. Sorry, just had to throw that in.

Any advice to an engineer looking to make a move on the global scene? Esp. after a screw-up?

[Fishing-guy]

yep, luckily. Delayed his return trip by about one month.

[Aliska]

That's good. Came back to do jobs American doctors wouldn't do? Just being sarcastic. Seems like there are plenty to go around for now. The more doctors we get, the more illnesses that need treatment. One wonders how it all shakes out.

I have no doubt there will be a never-ending supply of patients .

[Last Dakotan]

Milwaukee was once a booming city. What happened?

[khnyny]

There are a LOT of Americans in the Czech Republic. I understand the standard of living is pretty high and the quality of life very good. The Czech Republic (along with Ireland) has one of the best economies in the EU. Actually, I think Ireland is the best, but haven't looked at the stats lately.

[indthkr]

"why pay a US college professor $80K to teach you engineering, when a professor in India can do it for $30K?

Exactly!!

A real near term opportunity for the top-tier Indian University tech programs is to supplant the mid-to-lower tier University programs here in the U.S. by offering english-taught science, engineering and basic business (minus marketing) curricula to American students.

A prospective American student could get a pretty solid undergraduate tech education (not-to-mention 5-star housing accomodations) for about 1/3 or 1/4 of the cost of the same training here in the U.S.

Only the tier1 schools here in the U.S. will survive (about 15 or 20), and they will probably require a large infusion of government funding / sponsorship in order to stay viable.

[oceanview]

indeed, that will be the end game for engineering in the US - only the top tier schools survive, the graduates also take a business major, pure research becomes a niche segment, lots of government funding because DoD et al needs some level of US engineering to survive.

[khnyny]

There are a LOT of Americans in the Czech Republic. I understand the standard of living is pretty high and the quality of life very good. The Czech Republic (along with Ireland) has one of the best economies in the EU. Actually, I think Ireland is the best, but haven't looked at the stats lately.

[Republican Party Reptile]

I think you are right, Ireland is booming right now. So is Czech Republic, but even with the growth over the last decade, Cz still has a significant cost advantage over Germany, France, or UK.

[Nowhere Man]

I can see a spouse perhaps going by himself/herself for six months to a year to gain some experience, but to move the whole family there would not be feasible in many places. It would be like a serviceman leaving his family for a tour to an area where they cannot take their families because conditions there are too difficult/dangerous for wives and children.

True, it might be good for a single 20 something but what if you are 40 and/or have a family to care for?

They can take their globalism and shove it. American workers were far better off, and productive, before all this started. Like a poster above said, he adapted, but too many cannot; they can kiss their jobs and lifestyle good-bye forever because they will never have the earning power again and will be forced into subsistance wages and jobs way beneath their educational achievements.

I'll drink to that about what you just said about globalism. Maybe in the future, we will have sort of like a "Farnham's Freehold" situation (based on the Robert A. Heinlein book) where as the result of an atomic war, the surviving nations of the Third World become the superpowers of the future and the former First World (Europe, North Ameirca, Russia (well they're actually "Second World") is their source for serfs and slaves. If this keeps going on, we will not need an atomic war to do us in, the free traders will and in some ways, they are even worse.

People are criticizing on the GM thread, and they have some points, but what happens to a company like GM, your might be next. What happens in one part of the country affects all of us.

Well, you got to remember that Chrysler makes the M1 tanks, GM the Hummers, I'm sure they make our other military equipment too. If they went under, we are screwed unless we bail them out like the Carter Administration did with Chrysler and/or plain nationalize the industry.

[Aliska]

Well, you got to remember that Chrysler makes the M1 tanks, GM the Hummers, I'm sure they make our other military equipment too. If they went under, we are screwed unless we bail them out like the Carter Administration did with Chrysler and/or plain nationalize the industry.

I didn't know that. Just what we need, another bailout.

We are likely to end up worse that t*rd world if such a scenario as you describe were to come to pass. Our suriving multi-culturals who already have gangs that hate and kill one another will finish off what's left. We'll be lucky if there's a floor left to sweep. Anybody for McDonals's irradiated beef? One thing I know. We won't be importing any of those sacred cows from India.

Like I said, they can take their globalism and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.