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Time to do away with IRS, adopt common-sense sales tax
Chicago Sun Times ^ | April 1, 2006 | LEO LINBECK

Posted on 04/02/2006 3:10:12 PM PDT by Eaglewatcher

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To: SittinYonder
The congressmen have to have the tax code to monkey around with so they can continue to be powerful and more important than the rest of us.

which is why we have to have a loud REVOLT - MAKE it an issue and make them have to publicly defend the IRS and the income tax.

We have a big election year coming in 08 - maybe the most crucial one we'll ever have. MAKE it a campaign issue!

If we're going to just sit back and wait for Washington to do it - we don't deserve a break. Government OF the People means more than electing people and then sitting around sucking our thumbs and whining.

41 posted on 04/02/2006 4:37:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Your Nightmare
What's happening is that there is no one in Congress serious about the FairTax.

Could it be because we're all so quiet about it?

We send them to Washington, supposedly, to "represent" us - to do what we want them to do. If we don't demand this, loud and clear, why should they stick their necks out?

If we make a big enough noise, the just may sit up and take notice. All it takes is for politician to take it on and get face time on TV - and others will be clamoring to one up them.

But we have to let them know we're behind it

42 posted on 04/02/2006 4:41:43 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: cowtowney
The downside would be that the NRST would send money to DC, rather than to the city/county who pays for the schools/hospitals that are being burdoned.

I'm confused on this one. Our income taxes already go to DC - and a portion comes back - why would that change

In addition, with the increase in jobs, productively, money in pockets for purchase, - MORE money would be going to DC - and we could demand a proportionate share back

43 posted on 04/02/2006 4:46:15 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: ancient_geezer; pigdog; Bigun
Tax reform, more specifically abolishing the IRS and replacing the present tax system with the FairTax is one of two projects I' focus on. A larger project subsumes those two.

The second project  has a lot to offer the FairTax grass roots movement. One of the best and fastest ways to success of a goal is to emulate or model someone or something that is already successful. That's what LEAP is doing. They've implemented a very effective grass roots model. 

44 posted on 04/02/2006 5:03:31 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: ancient_geezer
Ok guys - let's get behind this bill and let

John Linder in the House(HR25)

& Saxby Chambliss Senate(S25

know we're behind them - and contact each of our congress critters and senators with a heads up that we expect THEM to get on board.

It's said we get the kind of government we deserve. Well, If we don't stand up and fight for this, we wont get it -and wont have deserved it.

NOW is the time to SHOUT - our reps wont do a d*mn thing if they don't think we're behind it.

Linder and Chambliss are giving us a shot. It's time for a tax revolt.

"Together we stand or we fall apart" m.t.

45 posted on 04/02/2006 5:05:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: longtermmemmory

You're right. A national sales tax would be terrible. It would be better to adopt a flat income tax, have everyone pay the same percentage of their income. Most states already have sales taxes, adding a federal sales tax would just make goods and services ridiculously expensive.


46 posted on 04/02/2006 5:09:35 PM PDT by steadfastconservative
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To: Principled
Do you see how this bill may ameliorate the immigration problem? Illegals would pay a higher rate than anyone else.

Exactly - no prebate - they pay from dollar no. one that they spend - 11 million of them! That alone would give a huge boost to the economy

47 posted on 04/02/2006 5:10:08 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Businesses and states are overwhelmingly opposed to a national sales tax.

You're wrong about business. And states are servants to the people, not masters.

The FairTax clears the way for tremendous growth in new jobs. The following quote from Rep. Bill Archer, Chairman, House Ways and Means Committee is astounding...

"A recent survey was done, in Europe and Japan, of the major corporations and I was astounded at the results. They were asked, 'If the US abolished its income tax and went to a sales tax, would that have any impact on your decisions?' Eighty percent of the corporations said they would build their factories in the United States of America. Twenty percent said they would move their international headquarters to the United States of America.


48 posted on 04/02/2006 5:10:36 PM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: maine-iac7

I have seen those and remain unconvinced.

Right now many states do not collect sales tax on "services".

I prefer a uniform flat tax with a deductions for Retirement Accounts and Homesteads. (ONE not ONE and a summer home/boat/motorhome)


49 posted on 04/02/2006 5:10:38 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Osage Orange

Join in the FRay, then, and help us giterdone!

Standing on the sidelines looking on will not advance the cause of FReedom one iota!


50 posted on 04/02/2006 5:11:55 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Lurker

Schadenfreude!


51 posted on 04/02/2006 5:13:56 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: longtermmemmory

REad the legislation -- H.R. 25 and/or S. 25.

Then come back to the forum when you have some useful information.


52 posted on 04/02/2006 5:14:55 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: SittinYonder
The congressmen have to have the tax code to monkey around with so they can continue to be powerful and more important than the rest of us.

All the more reason for term limits at every level; two 3 year terms in the house, two five year terms in the senate, then back home! Add the requirement that all political contributions be anonymous (can't sell influence to an unknown buyer) and maybe we start getting it under control.

53 posted on 04/02/2006 5:16:20 PM PDT by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: SittinYonder

Then, it is time to rejoin our movement!

We can do this, but we need your help!


54 posted on 04/02/2006 5:16:23 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: maine-iac7
but if you are an illegal - you wont get the rebate and you'll be paying taxes, finally, and from the get go.
What if you are a "guest worker"?
55 posted on 04/02/2006 5:17:18 PM PDT by Your Nightmare
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To: CrawDaddyCA

Things will change when enough Real Americans get off their asses and get to work on the tax problem we have!

Care to join us?


56 posted on 04/02/2006 5:18:19 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: TexasTransplant

Welocome aboard!

Ignore YN -- she and a few other naysayers have been fouling these tax threads for years.


57 posted on 04/02/2006 5:20:04 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: IncPen

So, I gather you and your wife are ready to support the FairTax?


58 posted on 04/02/2006 5:21:37 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Your Nightmare
HA Guest workers! The potential end of the republican majorities....
59 posted on 04/02/2006 5:23:00 PM PDT by Principled
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To: Taxman
Gladly...but I've written letters to my Congress Critters, all to no avail (other than the standard 'We understand your concern...').

BTW, I'm self employed and had to write a huge check to the U.S. Treasury. I get seriously pissed off this time of year.

60 posted on 04/02/2006 5:27:38 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Your Lord and Master...Foamy the Squirrel)
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