Illegal aliens didn't build U.S.

Pittsburgh Tribune Review ^ | March 29, 2006 | Jack Markowitz

[JCEccles]

What is evil is knowingly misrepresenting the true costs of illegal alien labor.

[Dane]

You remind me of the Seinfeld episode where Kramer and Newman are recruiting a homeless man to pull a rickshaw. The recruit listens to their pitch, salutes and says, "Potato salad!"

They were talking rickshaws, and he responds "Potato salad!"

Here we're talking about your great free energy 30 million illegal alien vegetable picking machine and you respond "Trial attorneys!"

Why you don't drag out your old standby argument, the racist strawman and kick it around the room for awhile? It at least has the virtue of being based on flawed logic rather than no logic.

Smoke some more dope, you may find a job in modern Hollywood, IMO.

[tertiary01]

True, the Chinese were instrumental in building the railways in the 19th century, and were notoriously good miners. I think the difference is most were just visiting Gold Mountain and were planning to return to China. Of course many didn't, but most did and many were killed when they refused to return after anti chinese legislation was passed. In St Helena a whole Chinese village south of town was massacred.

[TheForceOfOne]

bttt

[Dane]

What is evil is knowingly misrepresenting the true costs of illegal alien labor

Or trial lawyers or unions.

Whoops I forgot, trial lawyers or unions don't exist in your bong world, nevermind.

[Supernatural]

Stop the personal attacks or leave the thread.

[Dane]

Stop the personal attacks or leave the thread

Whatever self-proclaimed newbie DNC mod.

BTW, I ain't leaving.

That should get your boss hillary's panties(more like jock) all in a wad.

[Supernatural]

Again, please don't respond to the disruptive troll.

Thank you.

[tumblindice]

Teachers' unions and lawyers really have nothing to do with the issue, but most Freepers regard them with fear & loathing so they make nice `straw-men' for anyone lacking any substantive reasons for opposing enforcement of our immigration laws.
If someone were to make substantive arguments about changing our immigration laws, they would involve such things as, including but not limited to: federal and state minimum wage and overtime laws and occupational safety and health acts; the so-called `Family and Medical Leave' Act (which lumps pregnancy in with such things as a terminal illness); `Equal Employment Opportunity' laws; and, child labor laws.
If Mexican workers were legal immigrants employers would not be able to browbeat them into accepting working conditions that Okies endured in the `30s when such laws did not exist. (Not all of Steinbeck's `Grapes of Wrath' was artistic license)
Our current immigration policy with Mexico erodes any respect illegal aliens may have for all our laws because the immigration laws are not enforced.
They could change the laws, those mentioned above as well as our immigration quota from Mexico to increase the number of immigrants we accept from Mexico, but then employers would have to treat them like people rather than livestock.
The first act Mexicans commit sneaking into our country is to break our laws, but the Bush administration actually believes these poor campesinos will pay a $1000 fine, leave the US, then come back, then pay another $1000 fine, over a period of years, et cetera.
So you've got Democrats afraid of reducing the nanny state and business interests afraid of losing cheap, hard-working labor.
Either change the laws or enforce them, but in any event pitch the `Alicia in Wonderland' amnesty stuff: It sounds like a brainstorm thought up by the same people who came up with Hillary's national health care plan.

[axes_of_weezles]

Read this Dane, (if you can) You and bill have the same ideology.

Bill Clinton Backs Bush on Guest Workers

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1607480/posts

[Right Wing Assault]

Seen on http://www.forthecause.us

[tertiary01]

I just figured where your trial lawyer remark figures in.

Our new rich neighbor who is trying to develop a vineyard without permits while using illegal labor that of course follow el jefe's orders without question and save him lots of dinero, can then hire a law firm (who are his cousins) to harass my 82 year old mother with seven nuisance lawsuits (after he tried to steal a quarter acre) and encumber her adjoining 10 acres, so he can then offer her pennies on the dollar for her property.

He will then have a vineyard and winery worthy of his perceived status all courtesy of illegal labor.

Now I get it.

[satchmodog9]

bump

[Supernatural]

Si.

[penowa]

Yes, thanks for posting this, and I don't care if it's the 10th time it's been posted, because it's the 1st time I saw it, and it sure makes a lot of sense which is usually what you get from the TRIB. Thanks!

[Supernatural]

Oh, are you in the Pittsburgh area too?

[penowa]

Almost every state as it was added to the union had their own policy for immigration before the feds developed a policy for all of us in 1924.

[Leatherneck_MT]

Again silent about the Security Issue that Illegals bring forth.

You can't defend it, so you won't. This isn't just about jobs and you know it.

[Hawk1976]

The questions I have with this rampant globalism and hiring of illegals so you can pay them slave wages is this.

Who is making the money that otherwise more Americans would share?

The corporatists engaging in these activities say they do this to save the consumer, but have prices on toys made in China gone down? Has the price of meats gone down?

Not that I can tell, in fact the prices on them have risen if anything.

So who is getting that money? It is obviously going to pay these incredible salaries of the Corporatists, who then want to import a servant (slave) class to perform any services they might desire, from building to polishing nails to gardening. All so they can live like royalty. They either are unaware that they are putting pressure on the middle class by stripping away jobs that the middle class certainly used to do, or if that is just their goal, to turn the US into just another hellhole.

Using underpaid illegals or using slaves merely impoverishes the working class.

Globalism and Free trade are steaming pile if there ever has been one. We need to move to doctrine of Fair trade, free and fair are not the same thing. It just allows the corporatists to find the most recent crop of slaves, be that China or Vietnam or Cambodia or Latin America.

In case anyone is wondering I define a corporatist as anyone who in his rush to make or keep money has forgotten that he has more responsibilities than just to chase an almighty dollar.

[penowa]

It can only lead to national disaster and the end of our nation as we knew it.

Unfortunately, that's the agenda being promoted by Soros and the open borders bunch who intend to do away with our soverignty in the very near future.