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Who's Afraid of Polygamy?
NY Times ^ | March 11, 2006 | John Tierney

Posted on 03/31/2006 9:51:05 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: Jibaholic

Mat 25:29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.


101 posted on 03/31/2006 11:50:16 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Godzilla

chapter and verse please where it states that it is not wrong, not that it happened, or that so-and-so had so many wives, etc. where does it say we are allowed more than one wife?


I think you misunderstand what I said or I explained myself wrong. What I mean is that it does not say that polygamy is wrong, but it does not say that you can have more wives than one. I am for the if it is not a law of God than people don't have to follow it. Obviously in our case, it is a law of the country (in most states) so of course I follow it, but I am more concerned with God's law than man made laws.


102 posted on 03/31/2006 11:52:08 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Jibaholic

I did. Maybe you should.


103 posted on 03/31/2006 11:54:26 AM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
[ Who's Afraid of Polygamy? ]

Not lawyers.. its an increased workload thing..
Polygamy/Polyandry or Homogamy and Heterogamy will make it possible to double the quota of lawyers in this country..

Its all a wicked plan.. funny that most politicians are lawyers ain't it.. It has little to do with morality its lawyers promoting their Union.. Union?.. Yeah you can't be a lawyer unless "they" say you can.. With DUES and everything..

104 posted on 03/31/2006 11:58:14 AM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: colorcountry
Prove it.

Based on the articles I read on the first yahoo search screen.

I think you you mistake screeching and emotional for strength. I grew up with strong women; some involved in state and national politics in the rocky mountain west. You don't strike me as strong and capable as much as one with vicitim'm mentality and focus on revenge.

Not saying that you'd be quality enough to be one of my five, but if I was so inclined, and the others agreed, you could be my number six and I'd let the others train you in our ways. Eventually you'd be quite happy.

105 posted on 03/31/2006 12:01:38 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: CollegeRepublican

"but I have a serious argument against it; it is called fumarole deficiency. "

Uh...no such medical problem. This came either from a blog or from some tabloid, right?

Here's the deal. Some idiot misunderstood someone who referred to a "familial" something deficiency. This idiot heard the word "fumarole," which is a hole in the ground that emits volcanic gasses.

Go Google your "fumarole deficiency." You'll find a silly message thread on it from some random website.

There is no medical condition called a "fumarole deficiency" because there are no "fumaroles" in the human body.

Random websites produce random results.


106 posted on 03/31/2006 12:04:24 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
This idiot heard the word "fumarole," which is a hole in the ground that emits volcanic gasses.... There is no medical condition called a "fumarole deficiency" because there are no "fumaroles" in the human body.

Someone don't know their a-hole from a hole in the ground, eh?

107 posted on 03/31/2006 12:08:54 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The biggest losers from polygamy are the poorer men who end up with no wives. Women benefit because polygamy increases their number of marriage prospects — and in traditional societies, marriage is often the only way for a woman to improve her status.

Of course the NYT has assumed that the only thing that matters to a woman is the man's pockets. Which might be the case if all other things are equal among available men, but that's never true.

I have a big problem with this argument. It works for Tierney because he can't see beyond the current generation of women in the show. But ideas like prohibiting polygamy arent just based the present but looking longterm.

Let's say there are 500 males and 500 females in a small town. If the women share a relatively small fraction of the more prosperous males rather than mate with all of them (or almost all of them), over time the population will become progressively more inbred.

Did you learn about the ill effects of inbreeding in high school biology? Well forget all that. A New York times reporter has decided that you are an overwrought conservative.

108 posted on 03/31/2006 12:11:24 PM PST by freespirited
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To: colorcountry
Ah... so my basis of individual freedom and personal responsibility is trumped by your arbitrary application of religious epistemology? Simply on your say so?

Then we have nothing further to say to each other. Good luck.

109 posted on 03/31/2006 12:11:27 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: Eagle Eye

"Someone don't know their a-hole from a hole in the ground, eh?"

That's pretty much it. I can understand the word "familial" not being heard correctly, and being confused with "fumarole," but to see it posted that way is really amusing.

That's why, when I'm not sure of something, I hit Google to make sure I know what the heck I'm talking about. I wouldn't want to be accused of having any fumarole deficiencies.


110 posted on 03/31/2006 12:12:57 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: HitmanLV

As long as nobody FORCES anyone into polygamy then you're ok. Don't want to, don't.

But by the same token, what about those that do but can't?

I don't think that any opponent has shown examples of those whose participants are all willing. And that makes the wives more like chattle than wives in our sense of the word.


111 posted on 03/31/2006 12:12:58 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Yo-Yo

That is so funny. I wonder what they did on their honymoon. Oh never mind I don't want to know. LOL.


112 posted on 03/31/2006 12:14:10 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: MineralMan

Yahoo and Google can even make folks like me appear erudite.


113 posted on 03/31/2006 12:17:31 PM PST by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excess legislation.)
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To: Eagle Eye

Those who know me, know that I am strong and capable. That you think of it as screeching and emotional says more about you than about me.

Only weak men would you strong opinion as a tool against women. You are exactly the type of man that would abuse polygamy.

BTW who gets to decide if you are to take another wife? Is it by majority? Would you discount the emotion of wife #3 if she thought you had enough? Does the man get to decide because of his strength...these are some of the problems that infringe upon the rule of equal rights.


114 posted on 03/31/2006 12:17:40 PM PST by colorcountry (You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.....CS Lewis)
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To: Eagle Eye
I was only addressing my personal opinion about keeping up my end of the emotional bargain with several sets of families. It's my way of saying in this respect I am lazy and don't see the upside to it. That's not to say there isn't an upside to some folks, just that I can't relate to it.

What you say is disjointed and doesn't remotely address my observations. That's fine and all, but remarkably misplaced.
115 posted on 03/31/2006 12:17:45 PM PST by HitmanLV (Some people like to dash it out, but they just can't take it!)
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To: MineralMan

Excuse me, "fumarase deficiency". Google that.


116 posted on 03/31/2006 12:18:06 PM PST by CollegeRepublican
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To: bonfire

Yea, well I'm sure there are tons of folks who think Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame is a cliffnotes of the literary work.....

Just like there are folks who think that FX show about Iraq is remotely factual...

There are 2 universal constants.. . Hydrogen and Stupidity.... never underestimate the extent of either of them.


117 posted on 03/31/2006 12:18:54 PM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: CollegeRepublican

"Excuse me, "fumarase deficiency". Google that."

No need. I know what that is. When posting specific medical terms, it's really, really necessary to double check your spelling. Fumarole deficiency, indeed.

By the way, that spelling error is repeated in that silly blog thread I mentioned. Was that you who posted it?


118 posted on 03/31/2006 12:20:31 PM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: colorcountry

"You couldn't keep up with me, let alone four others."

ROTF!!!


119 posted on 03/31/2006 12:21:14 PM PST by bonfire
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To: napscoordinator
What I mean is that it does not say that polygamy is wrong, but it does not say that you can have more wives than one.

If you cannot even cite a chapter or verse justifying your position - how then can you even claim that it says what you are claiming it says? Within the Old testament era it was tolerated, (Exodus 21:10; 1 Samuel 1:2; 2 Chronicles 24:3). However the standard set by God was one man - one woman (Deuteronomy 17:17; Leviticus 18:18; Malachi 2:14,15). Do not confuse toleration with permission, though there were many polygamists in the OT,they suffered the negative consequences of their actions.

Within the New testament era it is not permitted (Matthew 19:4,5; Mark 10:2-8; 1 Timothy 3:2,12; Titus 1:6). as Jesus clearly stated, it was to be one man with one woman.

120 posted on 03/31/2006 12:22:16 PM PST by Godzilla (Gun control is not about guns; it's about control.)
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