Bush Pushes Congress to OK Immigrants

AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/30/06 | Nedra Pickler - ap

[Howlin]

OK, I'm game, name one Viet Nam Vet who supports this "plan"

Sorry. Not playing.

[Mojave]

It's been long established the Times took the president's comments out of context.

Spin.

[JeffAtlanta]

The reporter was referring to "people hunting immigrants on the border". The name Minutemen never entered the conversation. But you go ahead and soak up the slop that the MSN feed you.

President Fox had repeatedly referred to the Minutemen as vigilantes in the weeks before. He also referred to them as hunting the illegals.

If Bush was misunderstood then why hasn't the administration corrected the record?

[BigSkyFreeper]

Parroting does not imply originality.

[Mojave]

And nobody in my neighborhood interferes with police doing their business.

Red Herring II.

[First_Salute]

You are correct:

punish crime summarily

... failing to adhere to due process under the rule of law, and imposing a penalty, affecting, for example, a "kangaroo court" - "a doer of justice."

To date, the Minutemen have performed their civic duties well, as monitors on the southern border, and better than what usually can be expected, given that situation.

Thank you.

[Serenissima Venezia]

Bush supports the House Bill

Bush supports HR4437? What have you been indulging in this evening? How about a link, then because I haven't seen anything of the sort. I think he loves the guestamnesty bills being discussed in the Senate.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"Sorry. Not playing."

Thanks for an early concession!

[rolling_stone]

Are you too slow to click on my home page and see that I am in North Carolina?

LOL..Last time I heard, North Carolina was a State not a barrio (neighborhood) we were talking about neighborhood watches weren't we? Can you see the whole state from your house? For a state watch, I would suggest a least a rifle!

[Howlin]

You certainly are.

[Junior_G]

Well, it is a good one!

[BigSkyFreeper]

Well, Junior, let's hear your take on Storm Front.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Yeah? What side am I on?

Well, I'm assuming you're with the President on this issue, that we should let him do his strategerizing or playing poker or whatever because we should never underestimate him and he has a plan of some sort that'll make him smell like roses and recapture Congress for the Republicans.

I don't know Howlin, it's pretty clear what your objectives are. That said, we'll just agree to disagree.

[antceecee]

That is how I remember it. It wasn't a shining moment for this administration. I guess the best way to clarify things would be to post video links of the administration's comments.
I think if the comments were deliberately meant for the Minutemen, it could have been out of worry about escalating violence on the border.

[BigSkyFreeper]

Right. It's spin what the Times did.

[Howlin]

Isn't this what you said?

Maybe you should try living with where the illegals live you'd probably carry two guns...

I told you where I live. We have a LOT of illegals here.

[Serenissima Venezia]

If Bush was misunderstood then why hasn't the administration corrected the record?

Good point. In every letter I send to the GOP's request for money (#39 just tonight), I include that GW owes the minutemen an apology.

[cabojoe]

Why should the administration correct something that the President didn't say?

[Howlin]

Thanks for an early concession!

It's not a concession; it's just a memory of having this same discussion with you and remembering that no matter what I say, you say, "Why do you hate Vietnam Vets?"

[NormsRevenge]

California had an opportunity to have an initiative to start a California State Border Police but it fell short of a sufficient number of signatures to make the ballot.

It would have been an official state entity with full arrest and detention capabilities. It received little to zilch support from the Gub and many of the state elected officials.

I suspect that they might also have been considered vigilantes as well or legally challenged by the feds if such an initiative had passed.

We have a sad state of affairs in this state and nation... and what makes it worse is we have a split government trying to resolve crucial issues in an election year to top it off.

Not good for anyone in the long run, imo, except those whose have broken our laws and crossed our borders for all these years unimpeded for the most part.