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Bush Pushes Congress to OK Immigrants
AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/30/06 | Nedra Pickler - ap

Posted on 03/30/2006 6:00:20 PM PST by NormsRevenge

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To: NormsRevenge

The Three amigos... LOoooooL...


901 posted on 03/30/2006 9:58:09 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Howlin
Are you denying they are vigilantes?

Yes. Read the definition you posted.

a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily

It's the punishing of crime that is the crux of the matter. All the minutemen do is watch the border - they do not summarily punish anyone.

Are neighborhood watch members vigilantes too?

902 posted on 03/30/2006 9:58:09 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: cabojoe

Yes, I know. I posted the link where Bush referred to the Minutemen as "vigilantes". He was asked what he thought about the Minutemen by the media and his response was that he is against "vigilantes".

I'll give you an "E" for effort.

Nice try!


903 posted on 03/30/2006 9:58:41 PM PST by MaineVoter2002 (http://jednet207.tripod.com/PoliticalLinks.html)
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To: Junior_G
I say he referred to them as vigilantes, and didn't mean it as a compliment.

That's mostly right I think, he meant to say that vigilantism is not a good thing......... maybe not so directly at the guys in general.

904 posted on 03/30/2006 9:58:46 PM PST by beyond the sea (Claire De Lune - ........ 1862)
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To: Howlin

Oops .. forgot to ping you to my #898 post


905 posted on 03/30/2006 9:58:47 PM PST by Mo1 ("Stupidity is also a gift from God, but it should not be abused." Pope John Paul II)
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To: afnamvet

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1606530/posts?page=887#887

Hey Brother, what do you think of the "plan"?


906 posted on 03/30/2006 9:58:48 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It's ALWAYS a great day to be a Conservative Independent Voter AND a Viet Nam Vet)
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To: JeffAtlanta

You don't think turning them in to the Border Patrol is PUNISHMENT?

Are they letting them go?


907 posted on 03/30/2006 9:59:26 PM PST by Howlin ("It doesn't have a policy. It doesn't need to have a policy. What's the point of a Democratic policy)
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To: sinkspur
Get your nose out of The New American.

You must be mixed up. You're the only one to mention that publication.
908 posted on 03/30/2006 9:59:32 PM PST by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: MaineVoter2002

He was never asked about the Minutemen...nice try.


909 posted on 03/30/2006 10:00:17 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: onyx

I thought I would try a little homor to lighten up things. Life is way to short argue this amongst FRiends. We all have our opions on this.


910 posted on 03/30/2006 10:00:47 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: Junior_G
Was Bush talking about the Minutemen, and then just coincidentally went off on an unrelated tangent about vigilantes?

LOL! I guess rather than admit that Bush refered to the Minutemen as vigilantes, there are some here that would rather think he was getting senile and rambling incoherently.
911 posted on 03/30/2006 10:00:47 PM PST by Serenissima Venezia (Stop the “No Illegal Alien Left Behind Act” – call/email/fax/write your Senators today!)
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To: Howlin

Well you missed where I came in and what I was referencing or you wouldn't have asked your question....chew on this for awhile:

Mr. Bush's description of the Minutemen as vigilantes is a misreading of American history. The vigilantes were a lynch mob. The Minutemen are an expanded version of the Neighborhood Watch programs popular in many American cities. It's sad to see an American president roll out a royal welcome to a foreign dignitary so openly contemptuous of U.S. law, while simultaneously condemning Americans who are trying to help duly constituted authorities enforce the law.

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20050324-075949-5943r.htm


912 posted on 03/30/2006 10:00:52 PM PST by rolling_stone (Question Authority!)
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To: Howlin
Are you denying that they aren't vigilantes?

Your comment suggests that you a) agree that Bush did in fact refer to them as vigilantes and b) aren't too fond of the Minutemen yourself. Is that accurate? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

913 posted on 03/30/2006 10:01:06 PM PST by Junior_G
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Junior_G

There were also reports of a few minutemen wanting to start a civil war. The Border Patrol has enough problems already than to be caught in the crossfire of AK-47 gunfire.


914 posted on 03/30/2006 10:01:10 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Howlin
You don't think turning them in to the Border Patrol is PUNISHMENT?

Paging Bill Clinton...

915 posted on 03/30/2006 10:01:13 PM PST by Mojave
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To: hedgetrimmer
Rather than speculate on what could have been, the evidence shows that our sovereignty has been harmed

No it doesn't. Not in the least.

Could you put up a post without the word "sovereignty" in it? You've worn that word out.

916 posted on 03/30/2006 10:01:28 PM PST by sinkspur (Things are about to happen that will answer all your questions and solve all your problems.)
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To: Thunder90

The Dummies are sitting by and watching us eat our own.


917 posted on 03/30/2006 10:01:55 PM PST by antceecee (Hey AG Gonzales! ENFORCE IMMIGRATION LAWS NOW!!!)
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To: Howlin
You don't think turning them in to the Border Patrol is PUNISHMENT?

No, punishment means being judge and jury. By your definition, a neighborhood watch progam is a vigilante group because they watch their neighborhood and turn offenders into the police.

918 posted on 03/30/2006 10:02:35 PM PST by JeffAtlanta
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To: rolling_stone
"It's sad to see an American president roll out a royal welcome to a foreign dignitary so openly contemptuous of U.S. law, while simultaneously condemning Americans who are trying to help duly constituted authorities enforce the law."

Good catch.

919 posted on 03/30/2006 10:02:42 PM PST by Mojave
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To: afnamvet; onyx

"Well, at least you know the names of the dogs. Pull the detail, huh?"

Hey Brother, notice how the RINO's "forgot" it was people
like us who are used to insults to Viet Nam Vets.


920 posted on 03/30/2006 10:02:49 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (It's ALWAYS a great day to be a Conservative Independent Voter AND a Viet Nam Vet)
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