Bush Pushes Congress to OK Immigrants

AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/30/06 | Nedra Pickler - ap

[beyond the sea]

I'm somewhat new here so im wondering what FR use to be like. Was everyone in perfect lockstep with the republican party? Was it the republican version of the D.Kos? Sounds pretty boring to me.

It's a CONSERVATIVE site (Founding Father's intentions, etc.), not suppose to be merely Republican, I don't believe.

But some sure act like it's "agree with Bush or leave" type thinking. They have good intentions for they understand the Democrat alternative........ which is NO alternative at all.

[yarddog]

Bring it on. The more you say, the clearer it is just who you are.

[rcrngroup]

One thing which bothers me is how many people who rightly fight illegal immigration are perfectly ok with the huge number of legal immigrants we allow in this country.

I don't know how many legal immigrants we have in this country as opposed to the 14-15M illegal immigrants that I have seen estimated. The point is, I believe right now that are vastly fewer numbers of legal immigrants versus 14-15M illegal immigrants. I don't have a problem with legal immigration (hopefully somewhat controlled) because as least they are following the rules by applying to get in.

The illegal immigrants are where I am adament about... they need to be deported en masse, and then apply to enter the country which is what they should have done in the first place.

Unfortunately all the pro-illegal, pro-amnesty zealots (led by George Bush) ALWAYS seem to lump both legal & illegal immigrants into one phrase called immigrants. What bozos these leaders are! I believe that most Americans support LEGAL IMMIGRATION and are opposed to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. By the way, if Bush had any spine & was not a globalist hack, he should feel the same way.

[JCEccles]

Oh and while I'm on my little rant Tom Tancredo can kiss my ***

Inasmuch as that is very likely a job no American will do, maybe Fox can send an illegal across the border to do it. $15 an hour is probably sufficient.

[Mo1]

Let's face it: no matter WHAT the Congress or Bush does, it will never be enough for these people; never.

Yes I know .. it's the same BS as always

[BigSkyFreeper]

Facts" won't sway them - just like the DPW deal - it's mob-mentality now at FR - we already had one person call the President of the United States an "arrogant psychopath who deems himself King, Lord, and Master" - I probably won't stay at FR (or donate $) much anymore.

Bet you dollars to donuts that poster didn't vote for Bush in 2000 or 2004. Don't let some ignorant troll dictate what you should do with your money. It is your money.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to change your mind, but apparently some worthless Bush-hating troll has evidently swayed you.

Everyone here has some beef with the President, but he has never shown a tendency to be arrogant, much less possessed psychopathic tendencies. He don't own me, he doesn't force me to kiss a ring, and I don't offer up prayers to him in times of need.

[Graymatter]

"And so I'd like to tell the American people we are a nation of law, but...a system which forces people underground and into the shadows of our society, which causes people to have to sneak across our border and risk their life, is a system that needs to be changed."

Sounds like an argument against law and order to me. Our laws force people underground? What people, lawbreakers? Our laws force people into the shadows of society? So we should dispense with our laws, rather than the lawbreakers?

And what madness is this? Our system "causes people to have to sneak!" "Causes people to risk their life." We have laws against burglary that cause people to sneak and risk their life---if they choose to burglarize houses.

And if the system---i.e., the laws---force people into the shadows and cause them to sneak, etc., etc., we should toss out all the drug laws for the very same reasons. All the nation's addicts and crack whores can come out of the shadows too!

Yes, sir, laws are bad. Without them we wouldn't have lawbreakers, right?

And tomorrow, Mrs. Bush will say we're all racists. We were sexists about Harriet Miers and this is a thousand times worse.

[MaineVoter2002]

I woke up to his ranting, I dont remember much about what he said but I do remember a bit of it. I think he was blaming the catholics for this whole immigration situation. He was over the top, for sure. I mean, nobody should let our government off the hook in a time they are debating. The buck stops in Washington, not in Rome.

[beyond the sea]

true

[Mo1]

bug off

[teenyelliott]

going to do jobs that Americans won't do

I am so sick of this phrase. Like before the massive influx of illegals, no hotels got cleaned, no yards got landscaped, no produce got harvested, and no construction was done. Gimme a break.

[Mojave]

We need to change that with a constitutional amendment.

Not really. Sinkspur was just repeating a falsehood.

If Congress as part of its war on terrorism would require all aliens in the country to turn themselves in and deem any that refused hostiles, any anchor babies they subsequently bore would not be citizens. Been that way since 1868.

[lawdog]

"With the appointment of Earl Warren as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court by Dwight Eisenhower, the Court began to simply USURP power under the “equal protection” phrase of the 14th Amendment, to do ANYTHING desired by a majority of the Court. The “equal protection” doctrine has been used by the Court to impose FEDERAL mandates upon the States in such areas as education, voting rights, abortion, religious instruction, labor disputes, and the list goes on and on.

Precisely the kind of judicial tyranny which Thomas Jefferson warned of when he described federal judges as those who would be “constantly working underground to undermine the foundations of our confederated fabric.”

[onyx]

To: yarddog
Im not suprised that there are bushbots out there (here) who will back the president no matter what he does. Just like with Clinton, the majority of dems could not (and still can't) find any faults with the guy. It happens on both sides.



311 posted on 03/30/2006 9:54:27 PM CST by usnavy45
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I am not a BRO, bro.
You want to agree with yarddog? He called POTUS a traitor.

I asked yo.... Are you calling him a traitor?

[Howlin]

hit a nerve there, didnt I howlin.

Don't flatter yourself. I was just pointing out your utter stupidity.

[Icelander]

 

       SOLD!

[EternalVigilance]

They'll tell you all day that they don't support unfettered illegal immigration. They'll tell you they're more conservative than you could ever be.

But at the same time, they will do everything they can to viciously tear down conservatives.

Something seriously wrong with this picture, which most thinking people manage to see pretty quickly.

These have been their tactics on this site for the six years I've been here.