Bush Pushes Congress to OK Immigrants

AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/30/06 | Nedra Pickler - ap

[clawrence3]

Glad to keep you laughing - I already admitted the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the alleged ambiguities claimed by Deal and others who want to limit the 14th Amendment's scope:

"That creates an opening for Congress to restrict birthright citizenship -- and then let the courts decide whether that limit is constitutional. In Deal's view, the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" is ambiguous enough that it might exclude children of parents who are foreign nationals. Automatic citizenship is now granted to anyone born in the United States, even the children of tourists.

Opponents say Deal and his supporters -- his legislation had 83 cosponsors as of last week -- are overreaching. All immigrants, legal or not, are subject to the jurisdiction of U.S. laws, says California's Howard L. Berman, the No. 2 Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee. Furthermore, Berman says he is baffled at conservative Republicans, who normally insist on a textual reading of the Constitution, building a case that the court must "interpret" the 14th Amendment. "The fact that the court has not had reason to explore this is because Congress has not had the inclination to adopt something that is so contrary to the plain meaning of those words," he said."

Bye-bye.

[B4Ranch]

Just looking at who is doing the accusations is sufficent reason for me to ignore the comment. I suggest you do the same.

[clawrence3]

I believe sinkspur simply asked a question. That you refuse to answer says much more IMO.

[gopheraj]

Regarding the statue of limitations, I agree and think that ILLEGAL aliens who have been here for at least 10 years, can prove they have filed income tax returns for those years should be "grandfathered" in. IF that person has not filed income tax returns, then he/she has to pay a reasonable fine for every year they have been here.

Regarding the case law on Wong Kim Ark, check this out. It does seem to me that there should be a strict law clearly made out on this. Reading all through the 14th Amendment and the Civil Rights Law of 1866, it seems clear to me that the 14th Amendment pertains to slaves and no one else.
http://www.justia.us/us/169/649/case.html

Page 169 U.S. 649, 732 I am of opinion that the president and senate by treaty, and the congress by legislation, have the power, notwithstanding the fourteenth amendment, to prescribe that all persons of a particular race, or their children, cannot become citizens, and that it results that the consent to allow such persons to come into and reside within our geographical limits does not carry with it the imposition of citizenship upon children born to them while in this countr under such consent, in spite of treaty and statute. In other words, the fourteenth amendment does not exclude from citizenship by birth children born in the United States of parents permanently located therein, and who might themselves become citizens; nor, on the other hand, does it arbitrarily make citizens of children born in the United States of parents who, according to the will of their native government and of this government, are and must remain aliens. Tested by this rule, Wong Kim Ark never became and is not a citizen of the United States, and the order of the district court should be reversed.

[gopheraj]

Sorry forgot to add this link.

http://www.originalintent.org/edu/14thamend.php

[banjo joe]

Balkanazation American style" is no longer around the corner , it's on the horizon.

We should remember that Quebec almost seceded a few years ago b/c they had a french as opposed to English culture.

The writing for the U.S. is indeed on the wall.
We will have separate hispanic and American cultures.

[banjo joe]

There is only a wage that Americans won't work for

I would say "... a wage Americans CAN'T afford to work for".

Most Americans want more than to live like the turd world... 12 people in a single-wide, sharing a 1987, run-out conversion van held together with baling wire and chewing gum.

The illegals can undercut wages by living this way and it's orders of magnitude from where they were.
In this way the U.S. will become what they escaped.

New world order.

[mthom]

You support the unconstitutional forcing of state and local governments to educate illegals because its not abortion? Besides being a poor reason I doubt its true. You just happen to support THAT particular bit of judicial activism.

[Mojave]

I already admitted the Supreme Court has never directly addressed the alleged ambiguities

If that evasive admission that your claim was false is the best you can do, it'll have to do.