Bush Pushes Congress to OK Immigrants

AP on Yahoo ^ | 3/30/06 | Nedra Pickler - ap

[eazdzit]

You stated: "I'm certain it is intentional. If the point is important, one should look farther than what is posted, because OFTEN, what is posted is either outright false, or intentionally misleading. All sides engage in those cheap debate tactics - that's what makes FR a fun place ;-) "

Well I have to agree with you on that.!!!

:)Easy Does It:)

[JeffAtlanta]

Cut off the public benefits and let 'em self deport.

Agreed - it will at least stop the influx of new illegals.

You know, I'm thinking that it might actually be a good strategy to paint the illegals in a sympathetic light and push the idea that wealthy white businessmen are using them for slave labor.

That would quell any charges of racism and would put pressure on the businesses to pay the illegals a much higher wage and even provide benefits. This would, of course, price themselves out of the market.

I'm almost thinking that we need to convince Jesse Jackson to get involved and push the idea that illegal immigration is bad for poor black families. I know the idea of working with Jesse is sickening but he is a political whore and would help again against the charges of racism.

[BigSkyFreeper]

You be the judge: http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/legislative/sap/109-1/hr4437sap-h.pdf

[BigSkyFreeper]

You are wrong. I not only voted for him, I campaigned for him for two months at my own cost. You just live to defend socialism and rah rah a party label.

Gag me with a spoon.

[NRA2BFree]

Lol, I didn't say how long I would keep the promise.....

Just wait until you see the next protest/march and you see Mexico's flag flying. THAT will probably be the end of your promise. It would for me. I want to get my guns and shoot holes in those flags. LOL!

[BigSkyFreeper]

BigSkyFreeper, If you think the underclass isn't politically active you aren't attentive -or refuse to- ...

How the hell did you reach that conclusion? I've never said such a thing.

[beyond the sea]

yes

[FOG724]

Even if he was running against Hillary?

Even if he were running against Hillary!

[JeffAtlanta]

Even if he were running against Hillary!

Voting for McCain over anyone would do more harm than good. It would be like voting for Gerald Ford in 1976 and just continuing the cycle of enabling Republicans to govern as Democrat-Lite.

[curiosity]

Was he a psychopath as some have suggested of Pres. Bush?

Yikes. Yeah, I agree, that's going way over the top, to put it mildly.

I was never under any illusions about Bush. I knew he was no conservative from the start. I voted for him, and would do it again, because he was the lesser of two evils. That doesn't mean I have to sit back and take it when he does things to harm America.

[FOG724]

just continuing the cycle of enabling Republicans to govern as Democrat-Lite.

I agree. That's what happened here in CA with Arnold. What a disaster.

[curiosity]

Actually, David Frum and Ann Coulter made personal accusations about Miers that have never been retracted and have not been forgotten by many of us here.

Questioning someone's qualifications and competence does not constitute a "personal accusation."

Coulter and Frum should be proud of their role in derailing that incompetent crony. They have nothing to retract.

[sinkspur]

Questioning someone's qualifications and competence does not constitute a "personal accusation."

Coulter referred to Miers as a "cleaning lady" and referred to her education as "second rate."

These are personal accusations, not objective judgments.

[curiosity]

Coulter referred to Miers as a "cleaning lady"

Oh come on. You can't be that dense. Surely Coulter isn't the only satirist you've read. Ever heard of "tounge in cheek?"

and referred to her education as "second rate."

That was accurate.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Ask any Viet Nam Era Vet
what they think of the "plan" to reward
illegal "guest workers"
with a "path" to citizenship.

It was Viet Nam Era Vet's who saved America
from having to say "president hanoi kerry"

Karl Rove nailed it exactly

Rove Credits Swiftvets With 'Energizing' Bush Vote (Thank You Karl Rove!)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1345603/posts

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'08 Bumper Sticker

"ANYBODY except a RINO or hitlery!"

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Sessions and Tancredo '08

http://sessions.senate.gov/
http://tancredo.house.gov/

Monday, March 27, 2006
http://sessions.senate.gov/pressapp/record.cfm?id=253171&&

“The American people are counting on us to secure our borders and restore the rule of law to our immigration system. The Senate Judiciary Committee today let the American people down by passing out a blanket amnesty bill. We've been down this path several times before, and it proved a failure.
“There was a real opportunity to take the steps necessary to fix our failed immigration enforcement system and while progress was made, we did not get there. The proper approach is to first fix the enforcement system and then to undertake a national discussion about immigration, considering how to justly handle those here illegally and what rules should govern future immigration levels. We also have not effectively dealt with the national security issues.

“I voted against the committee passed legislation because it rewards illegal behavior, will be considered amnesty by the people and will not restore respect for law. Fortunately, the House of Representatives has passed a solid bill, and there will be an opportunity to improve the Senate version in the days to come.”

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http://tancredo.house.gov/irc/welcome.htm

"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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Real Conservatives FINALLY
have a winning ticket in '08

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Time for the real conservatives on FR,
be it Republicans, Independents or Democrats
(like Zell Miller and John O'Neill) to band together
and oust the looney left and RINO's

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The "Politically Correct RINO's" on FR are the same group
who "swore"
klintoon, hitlery, hanoi kerry, sanbdi ber(bur)glar, al bore, jane beno,
would be prosecuted for
pardongate, chinagate, the bribes in upstate NY in the 2000 NY Senate race, waco, etc, etc,
"when" the "time was right".

NOW the The "Politically Correct RINO's" on FR
want YOU to actually support the "plan" to reward illegal "guest workers"
with a "path" to citizenship.

How could an illegal be a "guest" of anything?

What part of criminal don't RINO's understand?

[sinkspur]

Oh come on. You can't be that dense. Surely Coulter isn't the only satirist you've read. Ever heard of "tounge in cheek?"

Coulter doesn't do tongue-in-cheek. Her specialty is venomous personal attacks, and she means every single thing she says.

To call her a "satirist" is to insult genuine satirists, like our own Chris Davis.

[jonrick46]

The high tech surveillance would be something the Soviets would have loved to have. Having infra red heat sensing cameras is a quantum leap. I have been told that they can detect people inside a box car leaning up against the wall. As for tunnel activities, they have transducers for that too. There would be no more mile long drug running tunnels as was found in San Diego. Besides the cameras on poles, you would have drone reconnaissance aircraft, looking at the surrounding area to the wall. If it were done right, you would have better surveillance than the Stardust in Los Vegas. No poker chips coming out from that wall!

[mthom]

You support the judicial activism that forces states to educate illegal alien children? What a surprise.

[eazdzit]

You stated in post 943 "To answer your question, Bush supports the House Bill which doesn't include amnesty, and which the Senate does not favor."

This is clearly a cheap debate trick intended to influence lurkers or people who don't spend the time to see the outcome of this discussion into thinking that Bush supports this bill as written.

THE BUSH PLAN DOES NOT SUPPORT HR4437 AS WRITTEN.

HR4437 has no guest worker program..... BUSH PLAN HAS ONE

HR4437 Builds a wall................... BUSH PLAN HAS NONE

You state to me: You be the judge:. These differences between HR4437 and the "Bush Plan" are in this file. there are others. If you read it you had to know that.

See these posts for the rest of the discussion:

See post 1438 here

See post 1448 here

See post 1452 here

See post 1481 here

:)Easy Does It:)

[NormsRevenge]

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