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QUICKVOTE, Lou Dobbs, immigration reform bill should include a guest worker amnesty?
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| 03-30-2006
| Lou Dobbs
Posted on 03/30/2006 4:18:09 PM PST by TLI
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To: clawrence3
They have to have housing and food ~ those payments are for the initial trip, and not everybody has to pay. There are folks with certain skills, and the coyotes are paid by the padrones in America.
The Hindus are legal, but they will live in much more crowded conditions than any number of Mexicans. Besides, they already know English, can probably do your accounting and other business management tasks for you, and will happily pick vegetables so they can send 75% of their earnings back home.
PLUS, and it's a really big plus, too, Indian people work work anywhere!
They are motivated.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:19:26 PM PST
by
muawiyah
(-)
To: TLI
Absolutely not because I have no faith that any immigration laws, whether it's the ones on the books or new ones, will ever be enforced. At best they will be selectively enforced and not in our favor.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:23:25 PM PST
by
abigailsmybaby
("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
To: TLI
Its time to start firing the bureaucrats who do not do their jobs when it comes to enforcement and protection of our constitutional right to a sovereign border. This means people in the USTR and the department of the treasury. This means congressmen who PROMISED THERE WOULD NEVER BE ANOTHER AMNESTY in 1986.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:26:17 PM PST
by
hedgetrimmer
("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
To: taxed2death
When there is a guest worker program the guests will obtain drivers licenses. After that, motor voter registration. Then, the demon rats will be in power for a long time and the United States as a free and capitalist society will cease to exist. This IMHO is what is at stake. If we have to eat a guest worker program then they must not have the vote, ever until they become citizens.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:28:21 PM PST
by
Nuc1
(NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
To: clawrence3
If you don't think the U.S. Senate was purposefully created to temper the heated emotions in the People's House, then I don't know if there's anything I can post to convince you otherwise.
I think the Senate was created by the Founding Fathers to maintain the balance between the states and the federal government. The 17th Amendment fundamentally changed that.
Today's Senate bears little resemblance to the body envisioned and created by the Founding Fathers, Vote-buying schemes were never part of the plan - neither was sanctioning people who break our laws, disrespect our flag and our national sovereignty, and choose to impose THEIR language, customs and traditions on us; their hosts. They remain here at OUR pleasure.
The bill is coming due and the majority of Americans have consistently demanded that the illegal immigrants pay up.
We are not anti-immigrant, we are opposed to people who violate the sanctity of our laws and our sovereignty. We favor those who come to be part of the American dream, NOT drop-ins who come here, abuse our hospitality, our social and health services and our school systems, then go home when it pleases them. When the Senate Judiciary Committee crafts a bill that rewards lawbreakers, what is the difference between an immigration bill that rewards lawbreakers with the grand prize (American citizenship), and simply throwing open the prison doors and letting all the rapists, murderers and pedophiles out?
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:28:48 PM PST
by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: clawrence3
...
if they have to return home and go through all the steps of legal immigration, then YES.Sounds fair to me; those who applied properly should not have to wait in line behind the "line jumpers".
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:29:24 PM PST
by
JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
To: TLI
Do you believe the final version of the Congressional immigration reform bill should include a guest worker amnesty program?
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Yes
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9%
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1029 votes
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No
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91%
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10834 votes
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Total: 11863 votes
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I'm quite surprised at these results.
Me, personally, am also for amnesty for murderers, thieves and child molestors.
/sarc
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:31:18 PM PST
by
birbear
(You know what? This is crap. We're going to stop this.)
To: clawrence3
Legal immigration is out of control as well. We need a moratorium on All immigration untlil the present immigrants are "digested". This worked well in the 20's and 30's.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:37:51 PM PST
by
BnBlFlag
(Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
To: hedgetrimmer
I remember that promise in 1986. Didn't believe it then and won't believe another one now.
To: muawiyah
To: Bookie1066
You solve the problem by putting the army on the border and giving the order to shoot to kill. When the bodies get high enough you won't need a wall.I said something similar about the drug problem (poison the incoming drugs, and the piles of dead junkies will solve the problem). A lot of folks who might agree with you on the border issue were not too thrilled with that!
I still think that a real WALL (backed up by a strong border patrol) is a more humane answer, and summarily executing convicted drug dealers is preferable to poisoning coke sniffing yuppies.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:46:41 PM PST
by
JimRed
("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
To: DustyMoment
The difference is that rapists, murderers and pedophiles are actual, you know, criminals. Those who have been in the U.S. for 25 yrs and have 3 kids aged 14, 17 and 22 who are all U.S. citizens with the oldest a West Point grad, are not. Next question?
To: BnBlFlag
Thanks for being honest. How many years, ballpark, for said "digestion" (I prefer the word "assimilation" ; )
To: BnBlFlag
Actually, they didn't need any limits on immigration in the 1930s. No one here had a job and no one there could afford the trip.
The world depression took the wind out of all the sails.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:48:35 PM PST
by
muawiyah
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To: clawrence3
Those who have been in the U.S. for 25 yrs and have 3 kids aged 14, 17 and 22 who are all U.S. citizens with the oldest a West Point grad, are not.
If they came here without an invitation or proper documentation, yes they are.
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posted on
03/30/2006 5:51:23 PM PST
by
DustyMoment
(FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
To: DustyMoment
Not if we can keep HR 4437 from becoming law.
To: TLI
Staying pretty constant (that's O.K. - most of the sheep thought the DPW deal would result in a nuclear explosion in our ports):
Yes 9% 1083 votes
No 91% 11299 votes
To: clawrence3
Yeah you and Ted Kennedy,... not hot heads.... LOL. Have you saved enough to open that soup kitchen yet? Teddy'l go to bat for you, protect you against those mean ol bogeymen "racists".
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posted on
03/30/2006 6:24:42 PM PST
by
tertiary01
(Why are those who say a fence is not the answer most likely to live behind high walls)
To: hedgetrimmer
Mark Levin said yesterday that Ted Kennedy and his cronies gutted the crux of the '86 Amnesty Bill by refusing to make it mandatory to prosecute employers who employed anyone who came here illegally after those already here obtained their citizenship. He said Reagan believed that enforcement of employer compliance was the cornerstone of the Act.
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posted on
03/30/2006 6:32:03 PM PST
by
tertiary01
(Why are those who say a fence is not the answer most likely to live behind high walls)
To: taxed2death
I don't understand why the papers aren't blaring the poll numbers on how many Americans are against illegal immigration. The numbers are unbelievable and the senators and Bush are totally ignoring the will of the people.
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