DNA could modify itself with no outside help, say biologists

Princeton University ^ | March 28, 2006 | Chad Boutin

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"Nice try? Talking to ones self? Whats that about?"

:)

"Its your work as it were, and you posted it to me. And it is not all I talk about."

:)

"Actually this is not to the whole group, but if I don't paint with a broad brush, it might be seen by ****** as a 'personal attacks' at the evos. So you, Sjive, Bwag, etc carry on with your poison agenda."

I win again, Mordo. :)

[SampleMan]

An unfortunate failure on my part at levity.

The article brought up a possibility on mutation that I had been told I was an ignoramous about on a previous thread. And I thought it was a light hearted jab to get the ball rolling.

Would have worked in person, but I forgot about the mechanics of the internet, and that any one statement must stand by itself without context, especially when you change threads and audience.

Does that suffice?

[R. Scott]

An unfortunate failure on my part at levity.

I had just left another forum where most posters ridicule evolution and science in general, so my mindset was not where it should have been.

[RunningWolf]

WKB

I doubt you should worry to much about finding disfavor in their eyes/judgment. Even Elsie 'is a troll' to them. Even other people that somewhat by into toe, but do not by into their god-hating ideology are labeled 'troll' by them.

Whatever 'crimes' you have committed before them, it is infinitesimal compared to the ridicule and mockery they seem to derive a perverse pleasure in heaping on people of faith. And they do it in the name of science/toe.
But as I have pointed out, 90% 95%/guess> of what they put out on these threads has 0% to do with any science, but instead is a direct and usually vile vulgar obscene attack on Christian symbology.

These is something in scripture on those sorts too I think.

Wolf

[WKB]

These is something in scripture on those sorts too I think.


Matt. 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.


Hey don't worry about me. If I had any feelings they would stay hurt. :>)

[RunningWolf]

Hello SampleMan

I have read your posts and I used to approach and have a pov towards toe from somewhat a similar place as you. However I came to the conclusion that people who have become seduced by this false theory will see nothing but toe.

I had pretty much forgotten about toe for many years until getting into these threads after discovering them from posters on the GGG threads.

I see now that the usual swarm has descended upon you. I see you have went into the post history and have made observations that they deny as always. They will never own up to the obvious IMO.

I know they will never give me any credit for this, but I did come for dialog. But dialog is not what you have with this sort apparently, they will post all sorts of troll imagery and even worse (sac-religious imagery etc) in the name of their 'science' at you me and anyone who even remotely confronts their ideologies.

Well good luck with them.

Wolf

[Stultis]

An excellent point. The same type of reasoning explains, IMHO, why the story of Noah is so much like the flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh in its details, yet so unlike it in its message.

Exactly.

The distinctions between theism and polytheism would have been less powerfully made, and less clear an object lesson to the original hearers of Genesis, if they had been introduced along with an entirely new cosmology.

It is precisely because the cosmology is otherwise the same as that of surrounding, polytheistic, cultures that the central point -- animals, celestial objects, etc, are mere objects devoid of inherent divinity, and only their (singular and transcendent) Creator is worthy of worship -- is made stark and obvious by comparison.

Well, stark and obvious to the original hearers anyway. Modern antievolutionary creationists seem to entirely miss the point, focusing obsessively on the details of the cosmology rather than on the central teaching to which the cosmological details are only incidental. In this miss-focus, Hyers argues, creationists actually compromise scripture through the demeaning (and pointless) task of trying to make it fit with modern, secular science.

[Stultis]

a direct and usually vile vulgar obscene attack on Christian symbology

So "Intelligent Design," Creation "Science," etc, are really only "Christian symbology"?

[Stultis]

cleavage...did you say cleavage?, I'm all ears....er eyes...pictures please...

Seems kinda odd, but if that's what turns you on:

DNA Cleavage by Restriction Enzyme EcoRV

The restriction enzyme EcoR V is shown (colored in green and blue for each monomer in the homodimer). The DNA is colored in standard CPK colors and is shown as bound to the enzyme prior to cleavage.

Of course there are many, many modes of DNA cleavage; by aromatic amines, photochemical, acid driven. Didn't know if you have a particular fetis..., ah, preference.

[WKB]

Exactly.

The distinctions between theism and polytheism would have been less powerfully made, and less clear an object lesson to the original hearers of Genesis, if they had been introduced along with an entirely new cosmology.

It is precisely because the cosmology is otherwise the same as that of surrounding, polytheistic, cultures that the central point -- animals, celestial objects, etc, are mere objects devoid of inherent divinity, and only their (singular and transcendent) Creator is worthy of worship -- is made stark and obvious by comparison.

Well, stark and obvious to the original hearers anyway. Modern antievolutionary creationists seem to entirely miss the point, focusing obsessively on the details of the cosmology rather than on the central teaching to which the cosmological details are only incidental. In this miss-focus, Hyers argues, creationists actually compromise scripture through the demeaning (and pointless) task of trying to make it fit with modern, secular science.

One is the Bible the other is not. This ain't rocket or evo science boys DUH!!!!