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1 posted on 03/28/2006 2:45:07 PM PST by Conservative Coulter Fan
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We now know that it is not scientifically accurate to refer to a “gay gene” as the causative agent in homosexuality. The available evidence clearly establishes that no such gene has been identified. Additionally, evidence exists which documents that homosexuals can change their sexual orientation. Future decisions regarding policies about, and/or treatment of, homosexuals should reflect this knowledge.

Indeed. Now for my standard post on the subject:

There is no genetic test or procedure (experimental or otherwise) that can determine one's sexual orientation. When people claim to be gay and we believe them, what we're really doing is taking them at their word. We believe their claim, we believe their testimony and we believe their declaration that they are gay.

But there are some people who are suddenly skeptical when one claims to be ex-gay. They don't believe the ex-gay claim, they don't believe the ex-gay testimony nor their declaration that they are ex-gay.

When somebody uses a certain standard to measure the credibility of what one group says, but then refuses to use the same standard to measure the credibility of what another group says--thereby ignoring the claims of the second group (ex-gays)--he should ask himself why he believes one group and not the other... This is a double standard.

45 posted on 03/28/2006 4:43:34 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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"The real issue here is homosexual actions that society has deemed immoral and, in many instances, illegal. Since no study has firmly established an underlying genetic cause for homosexuality, arguments suggesting “equal rights” are both baseless and illogical."

Actually, it is morality itself that is viewed as immoral in today's topsy turvy world.


50 posted on 03/28/2006 5:46:55 PM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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"Thus, out of a population of 106,741,426 households, homosexuals represent 0.42% of those households. That is less than one half of one percent!"

Then why worry about it?

54 posted on 03/28/2006 6:43:58 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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I used to think it would make some kind of difference if it could be proved that people were gay because they were born that way. But really it makes no difference if it is a choice or a genetic imperative. It makes no difference from a "rights" standpoint since a gay person can still say they have a RIGHT to "chose: to be gay. And it makes no difference from a genetic stand point either because a gay person can also say they were born gay and have a RIGHT to actualize that state.


55 posted on 03/28/2006 6:51:12 PM PST by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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Wholly Crap Clapman

God made you this way?....

Kinda makes a case for the 'reformed' position that's for sure. (no in u endo intendoed)...

But seriously folks...

"In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will." — Eph. 1:11.

"What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much long-suffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction; and that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy which he had afore prepared unto glory." — Rom, 9:22, 23.

62 posted on 03/28/2006 7:56:04 PM PST by joesnuffy
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If you're not sure where you stand on this issue, you may find the following of interest: Dr. Robert Spitzer Interviewed In 'Christianity Today' Magazine. Read that very carefully. Take special note of who Dr. Spitzer is, what he used to think and what he thinks and says now.

Now couple the above with the very important results of the Twins Studies, a summary of what science has stated and the extremely important growing number of ex-gays. After reading the above links you should have a better understanding of the issues.

68 posted on 03/29/2006 6:56:15 AM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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The Gay Gene:


73 posted on 03/30/2006 2:51:16 PM PST by Flavius Josephus (War today is always cheaper than war tomorrow.)
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They haven't found the gene that predisposes one to alcoholism either have they? But does that mean acting on the impulse is acceptable--NO.


75 posted on 03/31/2006 10:54:18 AM PST by gal522
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