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The Most User Friendly Fighter Bomber Ever Built
Strategy Page ^ | March 28, 2006

Posted on 03/28/2006 8:39:34 AM PST by spetznaz

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"The cockpit for the two man crew not only allows for tandem (side-by-side) seating, but is spacious enough for the pilots to stand up and, standing behind their seats, stretch a bit. There is also a toilet and cooking facilities back there as well. "

Sounds like an old RV I used to have. This would be somewhat faster though.


21 posted on 03/28/2006 9:15:29 AM PST by BadAndy (Islam is a religion of submission. YOUR submission.)
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To: spetznaz

It would be nice to see a civilian version for executive courier duties when fast is just not fast enough.


22 posted on 03/28/2006 9:20:20 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam's true face: http://makeashorterlink.com/?J169127BC)
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To: Professional Engineer

Ping.


23 posted on 03/28/2006 9:22:05 AM PST by colorado tanker (We need more "chicken-bleep Democrats" in the Senate!)
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To: Sax
And in order to flush the hi-tech john, you have to think in Russian.
24 posted on 03/28/2006 9:22:50 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: GrandEagle
If they have to eject, does the pilot and seat crash through the canopy? That is rough on the pilot(s).

The A-6 Intruder, EA-6B Prowler and S-3 Viking all were designed for the aircrew to eject THROUGH the canopy. Yes it could be rough on the crew, many lacerations, etc.

What I find interesting is pressurized below 33K feet and the "normal flight gear" above. That "normal flight gear" above 33K is the same as what one wears below 33K.

Aircrew routinely fly above 40-45K with only an Oxygen mask, pressurized suits aren't required until you transition to the SR-71 Blackbird altitudes.

25 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:16 AM PST by Cliff Dweller (No such thing as a threat... just targets)
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To: spetznaz
And are you young/old enough to remember the "Thunderbirds"?

Cool show, and it had the same effect on me.

26 posted on 03/28/2006 9:23:45 AM PST by manwiththehands (Islam is as Islam does. Islam is as Islam allows.)
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To: JoeGar
Heck, you should see what they go through when they try to use the urinals on a KC-130.......
27 posted on 03/28/2006 9:26:15 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: robertpaulsen

Good one! Flushki.


28 posted on 03/28/2006 9:26:23 AM PST by Sax (Ahmagonnadoajihad - His name says it all)
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To: Cliff Dweller
Buzzed around myself at 40 or so in just a flight suit and Ox mask. Very comfortable. (Back seat - F-15, F-4. I was not a pilot, just ground crew).
I was unaware that we had aircraft where the pilot went through the cockpit. The F-111 cockpit, pilots and all ejected. Thanks for the info!

Cordially,
GE
29 posted on 03/28/2006 9:29:31 AM PST by GrandEagle
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To: Cliff Dweller
Aircrew routinely fly above 40-45K with only an Oxygen mask,

That's not exactly what I meant. I meant as far as high altitude specialized gear, not flying "au natural"....

30 posted on 03/28/2006 9:29:46 AM PST by Cliff Dweller (No such thing as a threat... just targets)
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To: spetznaz

Like the pakistanis, they can use the gas from the toilet to cook on. Yum!


31 posted on 03/28/2006 9:30:33 AM PST by Londo Molari
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To: manwiththehands
That's a sweet looking bird. I want one. It would look good next to my F22.

It would look even better in the gunsight of my F22.

32 posted on 03/28/2006 9:36:06 AM PST by shekkian
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To: spetznaz
The old Soviet aircraft used to be able to fly from fairly primative runways vs ours, who need pristine runways.

I wonder if this thing is designed that way (opens the door to landing at large family picnics)

33 posted on 03/28/2006 9:38:25 AM PST by llevrok (Drink your beer damnit !! There are people in Africa sober.)
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To: BadAndy
"Sounds like an old RV I used to have."

Actually, the Russians liked the "kitchen" concept so well on the Su-34 that their next design, the Su-3400, has a shower, two bedrooms, dining area and a walk-in closet. The prototype design is below:

(The frontal view shows why it is also known as the Winnebago.)

34 posted on 03/28/2006 9:43:00 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: manwiththehands

Yep ....if you mean the numbered vehicles (my fave was the number 2 plane, as well as the number 4 sub). I loved that show. Also liked StingRay (same concept ...as in string puppets, only this time they have a Captain Nemo-ish sub and a sub-base).


35 posted on 03/28/2006 9:57:12 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: spetznaz
Meanwhile, the Administration is plotting to retire the F-117.

F-117 Fleet Faces Early Retirement
Aviation Week & Space Technology 03/27/2006

President Bush wants to retire the F-117 stealth fighters, sending most to the boneyard over the next year, rather than by 2011.

The fighters, which cost about $45 million each, were a revolution in technology when they were unveiled in 1988 following a classified development program. Their radar-evading technology and ability to drop precision-guided bombs at night were a major asset in the 1991 Persian Gulf war. Bush's plan would retire 10 F-117s in 2007 and the remainder in 2008. The Pentagon is trying to save money by accelerating retirement of several key aircraft--nearly half the B-52 bombers and all U-2 spy planes--while increasing funds for the F-22 fighter.

Winslow Wheeler, senior fellow and director of the Straus Military Reform Project at the Center for Defense Information, says the plan amounts to what some call "Washington Monument Drills"--proposed budget reductions the Pentagon knows Congress will add back to the budget.


36 posted on 03/28/2006 9:57:39 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: spetznaz

Yes indeed, the Russkis can build planes (and ships!) that are very pretty as well as effective. Smart engineers over there. The helmet mounted missile aiming was a helluva invention that would cause grave problems in a close-in dogfight.


37 posted on 03/28/2006 9:57:53 AM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Jeff Head; Travis McGee; ALOHA RONNIE; maui_hawaii; kattracks
Ping.


38 posted on 03/28/2006 9:59:59 AM PST by Paul Ross (Hitting bullets with bullets successfully for 35 years!)
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To: manwiththehands

I do hope these are the Thunderbirds (from the show) you were referring to. Thunderbirds go!

39 posted on 03/28/2006 10:03:22 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: colorado tanker

Does it come with a hot tub in the trunk as an option?

Interesting looking bird.


40 posted on 03/28/2006 10:19:56 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Don't blame me, I voted for Hatch.)
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