Posted on 03/28/2006 7:19:33 AM PST by NYer
You'd think he'd at least wait until her body was cold. If nothing else, but for publicity sake.
I'm gonna search for the insurance story and see what I come up with. Will ping you if I find something.
I'm surprised he and his cohort didn't spill out onto the front lawn, tap a keg of beer, dance around, get silly, and engage in various forms of debauchery.
>> Will ping you if I find something.
Yes, please do, thanks.
Whether a person looks good or bad to you should never be a deciding factor in whether or not they're allowed to live. Terri had a right to live, no matter how uncomfortable that makes you.
"Oh, here we go again. You can't seem to make it past a few posts without re-informing us of your complete ignorance of Terri's medical condition. Terri was not brain-dead until a year ago, on March 31,2005. That's the point that hooking up a heart machine or a ventilator would've been doing the work for her brain. She didn't need either of those machines within a few weeks of her initial hospitalization."
"I do hope you'll educate yourself on some of these terms. It could come in handy some day."
Here's your response:
My wife's grandmother was on a ventilator and she certainly wasn't "brain-dead". She had congestive heart failure. I see you are another person who sees nothing wrong with asphyxiating people when medical technology could prevent it, but is against dehydration and starvation. Why? Is air less vital than food and water?
First, I find it interesting that you somehow pull that baloney out of your hat when I am trying to describe what the term "brain-dead" means to the other poster. How you got from my post to your response is beyond me.
Second, you know zilch about me. Nothing could be further from the truth. Air is absolutely vital, every bit as much as food and water. However, it wasn't an issue in Terri's case.
FWIW, my own father died three years ago from congestive heart failure, so I know exactly what your wife's family was enduring watching their grandmother suffer from that disease. He wasn't brain dead, either. He had a ventilator and oxygen for a while. We removed his ventilator, preparing ourselves for an imminent death, but that didn't happen. He was able to breathe a bit on his own. We never removed his oxygen. He did. It was a wonderful moment, because it affirmed what we thought he wanted, to be removed from the tubes that were everywhere. He hated to be tied down or confined, and he felt that way when the ventilator and oxygen were on him.
We offered him food and water, which he accepted in small amounts. After a day, he had no more appetite, but was constantly thirsty. He sucked the water off a sponge-like Q-tip many times, and we cooled his forehead with a cool, wet washcloth. He was surrounded by friends and family 24/7. He lasted only five days from when we gave permission to have the ventilator removed, but they were probably the most blessed five days of his life. We prayed over him several times a day. Our priest often visited, and gave him Last Rites. We told jokes and stories with him and his guests. We all laughed and cried. He got anything and everything he wanted. Any old wounds were healed during those days. It was not physically pretty nor fun to watch him suffer, and he did suffer, but we made him as comfortable as was humanly possible. I think he had about as good a death as anyone can hope to have, and I am honored to have his example of grace under trial. We were all blessed with his life.
I do not take life or its value lightly. It is a precious gift from God, no matter the circumstance. It is His to take at a time of His choosing.
For real! I didn't understand the jump in logic, and I'm glad I'm not the only one!
Thanks for helping out. I hope the other poster understands what I was trying to say. I know you did!
I have no doubt about the Schindlers' faith. The grace they possess is obvious. Very telling that Michael cannot see it.
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1420.html
MIKEY SAYS: If you havent heard about the book, its called Terri: The Truth. And if you havent heard about it, dont worry, you will.
Beginning this week I am starting a national media tour to promote the book and TerriPAC. Youll be seeing me on many national TV shows and hearing me on national radio programs. And you can already pre-order the book from many national booksellers such as Amazon by clicking here. Next, but in now way least, TerriPAC is living up to our mission to hold politicians accountable and support public officials and candidates who respect the rule of law and our rights to privacy.
So, I am delighted to tell you about one candidate TerriPAC is supporting. Kathy Castor is running for Congress in the 11th Congressional District in Florida and shes a great candidate. Kathy is a Hillsborough County Commissioner (Tampa) and her mother, Betty Castor, served as Floridas Commissioner of Education and President of the University of South Florida.
I met with Kathy, questioned her about her commitment to our issues was proud to give her one of the first checks from TerriPAC to support her election to Congress.
And like we promised, TerriPAC is not just about supporting good candidates. Were also about keeping bad ones out of office. Kathys main opponent in the primary election does not agree with our basic rights to privacy. As a member of the State Senate, her opponent voted for the political intervention into my familys personal decisions. And thats just not acceptable.
So Im asking you, in addition to your generous and continued support for TerriPAC, that you take a moment to learn more about Kathy Castor and support her campaign as we have.
FV SAYS: So, if you are against murder, you are a bad candidate??? Schiavo works for the Sheriff's Dept. now and makes more than the deputies. I'm sure they're peeved that he's been a model employee for just a year and is making $70K and gets plenty of time off from the Sheriff's Dept.
I wonder about citizen's arrests? I think somebody already tried to arrest Greer.
From what I've read she went from 200 to 150 before meeting Schiavo, and then 150 to 110 while with him. When she hit 110, she stopped menstruating according to the articles.
While on the topic, to your assertion as proof that she did use birth control pills, I say you must not realize that Terri was seeing a gynecologist to find out why she wasn't having success getting pregnant without using birth control. People do have fertility problems you know, and it is not always related to birth control.
I never said birth control pills.
Yes, I know people have fertility problems, but hers only occurred about 5 years into her marriage after her weight fell drastically to 110. You have to admit based on the normal actions of faithless Catholics such as the Schiavo's (who rarely went to Mass at this time), that 98% of them are using artificial birth control as well. This is quite well established by numerous large surveys. The chances are overwhelming that the Schiavo's weren't devout Catholics following the teaching of the Church on birth control, but simultaneously failing to go to Mass.
There is no need to canonize Terri or her parents, and certainly not Michael to wade through their subsequent issues. They were ordinary sinners, and its tiresome to here about their supposed devotion as a part of this story, because it clearly wasn't there until they decided to drag the Church into their family feud.
Your assertions about the Schindlers and their faith are ridiculous, IMHO. I can see from your posts to me that if someone gives you an inch, you take a mile.
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