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Counterfeit Conservative
The American Conservative ^ | Doug Bandow

Posted on 03/27/2006 2:54:07 PM PST by Irontank

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To: penowa

If that's the best the Republican party can do, then I will be writing in my vote.

I guess we'll see won't we?


61 posted on 03/27/2006 4:40:12 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: mugs99

"He was a loyal patriot who couldn't be bribed. I think you have the wrong POS in mind."

He was a glib big mouth who when the chips were down couldn't think straight.

You and I know he lost almost all supporters after his stupid post 9/11/2001 remarks.

When 3,000 innocent citizens have been murdered by foreigners, you rightly blame the murderers.

I don't need a masters from Libertarian University to know how to think straight.


62 posted on 03/27/2006 4:40:47 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: delacoert

The ones that companies outsource work to and the immigrants who come here under visas.


63 posted on 03/27/2006 4:43:43 PM PST by misterrob (Islam is a hate crime)
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To: RHINO369
A good conservative republican fighting on good issues would have beat gore and kerry by more than -1% and 4%

I couldn't agree with you more. Ronald Reagan's dead. We have John McCain, Rudy Guiliani, Mitt Romney and George Allen. I guarantee you none of those RINO's will do the job. Allen? Maybe, but when was the last time a Senator got elected? Frankly, I don't know if I want a former Senator as CIC.

Back to my original post (which was tongue in cheek, btw) VOTE REPUBLICAN because that's all there is. The alternative is..., what? Got militia?

64 posted on 03/27/2006 4:44:25 PM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: groanup
There are plenty of conservatives in America, we just need to find one whose got a clean personal life, is a very persuasive public speaker, and is dedicated to conservatism, America, and our Constitution.

I don't understand the logic of many here. Reagan the most conservative president in modern US history beat a sitting President by 10%. George HW Bush lost by 6% after winning a war only a year before. Dole lost by 10%, and GW Bush won by -.5% in 2004, and 2.5% in 2004 against the most liberal candidate a republicans ever faced, during a war where our homeland is under attack. With all this evidence showing the more moderate the candidate is worse they do in an election, they still say our only hope is running a democrat light.
65 posted on 03/27/2006 4:53:43 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Cyber Liberty

Okay, I never said that there were 6 qualified conservatives in the race. I said that there were 6 conservatives and they watered down the message. Bush wasn't one of the six. Bauer, Buchanan, and Keyes were definitely not ready for prime time. Quayle and Forbes were. And frankly, I can't even remember the sixth one, but I do remember (at least) nine candidates, three of whom were Bush, McCain and Dole, who represented the center and left.


66 posted on 03/27/2006 4:55:38 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: mugs99

Who knows, I don't work for a CEO.


67 posted on 03/27/2006 4:56:56 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: RHINO369
Regan also cut taxes by a HUGE percent. His tax cuts and massive military spending is the reason for the large deficit . Those tax cuts are also the reason the budget balanced itself under Clinton. Your not going to win converts to your neocon cause by attacking real conservatives.

First, I am not a Neocon but you can call me one if it makes you feel bigger. Second bush cut taxes too. Taxes were high as 90% in the fifties and have been trending lower every since. Third numbers are numbers, they don't care about your explanation. 2005 GDP 2.9% 1975 GDP 6%. Thats the facts, you can argue any cause you wish but when you are through the numbers are going to remain the same.

68 posted on 03/27/2006 5:08:58 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41
The number do not lie
69 posted on 03/27/2006 5:17:48 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: stopem

Graham today was one of the few Republicans who voted for Specter's amnesty legislation. I hope the good people of South Carolina are aware of what their Senator ("Republican by day and Democrat by night") is doing.


70 posted on 03/27/2006 5:22:37 PM PST by Malesherbes
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To: truth_seeker
I don't need a masters from Libertarian University to know how to think straight

In that case we can look forward to many more attacks. We'll just blame the muderers as they take place, instead of changing our foreign policy to prevent attack.
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71 posted on 03/27/2006 5:38:56 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: kaktuskid

He also didn't cut one dollar from the year to year funding of any of lbj's "Theft Society" programs. That's after a 49 state win. Not a lot of "R"s that want to do more than talk about cutting spending?


72 posted on 03/27/2006 5:40:23 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Irontank

[Bush believes in none of these things. His conservatism, such as it is, is cultural rather than political. Writes Bartlett, “Philosophically, he has more in common with liberals, who see no limits to state power as long as it is used to advance what they think is right.”]

Right. Our President is a fool liberal who doesn't have the good sense he was born with. What they think is right is one world government and Bush is a supporter like his father, unfortunately.


73 posted on 03/27/2006 5:47:23 PM PST by ohhhh ( I pray the public school system collapses for the good of the children.)
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To: RHINO369

Thats argument for how the money was spent. The deficit's are still 2.9% Bush 6% Reagan.


74 posted on 03/27/2006 6:00:52 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Irontank
My trust is absolutely shaken.

Hundreds of thousands take to the streets to defy America's right to defend its own borders, and Bush worries that we conservatives are being "uncivil" which I take as code language that he's calling his own constituency racist.

He's scheduled yet another honeymoon with Vicente in Cancun--

I know one honeymoon that is definitely over.

75 posted on 03/27/2006 6:25:35 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: abigailsmybaby

Yes, we'll see and I hope we're both wrong about McCain. Any field of possibilities where he or Guiliani are the top polling candidates has to mean that the rest of them are so pathetic in contrast that they make these guys appear to be reasonable choices.


76 posted on 03/27/2006 6:27:58 PM PST by penowa
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To: Codeograph
You have to remember , the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and Tip O'Neil always declared everyone of Reagans budgets DOA.

Your memory sucks. Republicans controlled the Senate for 6 of Reagan's 8 years.

77 posted on 03/27/2006 6:51:27 PM PST by Once-Ler (Principled conservatives don't vote for $trillion budgets and blame Dubya for signing them.)
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To: Once-Ler
Your memory sucks. Republicans controlled the Senate for 6 of Reagan's 8 years.

Appropriations originate in the House, not the Senate.
78 posted on 03/27/2006 7:00:23 PM PST by fallujah-nuker (America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
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To: fallujah-nuker; Codeograph
Appropriations originate in the House, not the Senate.

That is correct and irrelevant. It doesn't negate the fact that the Republican Senate under Reagan also passed the budgets or that Codeograph's memory is wrong.

79 posted on 03/27/2006 7:12:42 PM PST by Once-Ler (Principled conservatives don't vote for $trillion budgets and blame Dubya for signing them.)
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To: RHINO369
Won't work. The candidate must have infrastructure and an enormous fund-raising apparatus. The last time a candidate went door to door was the peanut brigade during the election of Jimmy Carter and, before that, I'm not sure but it was a long, long time ago. You can't just identify a good republican candidate and expect him to get any traction without the structure.

The elections were already rigged in favor of incumbents but McCain Feingold made sure that would be the case for all time.

Now the elections are rigged in favor of incumbents and the news media. I think the next time I hear one of them touting freedom of the press I'm going to puke. Freedom of the press to do what? Form a cabal and influence public opinion?

I daresay that the founders missed this one. They had no idea that Americans would be so brain dead that they get all of their news from a handful of intellectuals in New York City.

80 posted on 03/27/2006 7:12:58 PM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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