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Counterfeit Conservative
The American Conservative ^ | Doug Bandow

Posted on 03/27/2006 2:54:07 PM PST by Irontank

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To: Cyber Liberty

ways = says


21 posted on 03/27/2006 3:23:38 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: misterrob
Presidents and Congress don't get to tell corporations how to run their businesses when it comes to outsourcing.

LOL!
Corporations do get to tell Presidents and Congress how to run government when it comes to everything.
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22 posted on 03/27/2006 3:26:00 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99

Well, then. It's the eeeevil corporations.


23 posted on 03/27/2006 3:27:37 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: kaktuskid
Reagan never had a "9/11".

If he did, don't you think he would have used a couple of brain cells (something which Bush has been unable to do on this matter) and sealed the border? I'm confident that he would have. "A nation without borders is not a nation." - Ronald Reagan

Additionally, how is bursting the seams with uncontrolled non-defense, discretionary spending something that must be done post-9/11? Logic says that such pork spending should go down and defense spending should go up after such a devastating attack and the ensuing war. Bush wants it both ways and our grandchildren and their children are going to get the bill. Similarly, he wants it both ways with the border - he wants us to believe that he's serious about stopping another terrorist attack in the United States but at the same time he wants people to believe that he is somehow compassionate by not sealing the borders.

I hesitate to think that Reagan would have played it like this - especially if Reagan enjoyed a Republican controlled Senate and House.

24 posted on 03/27/2006 3:28:21 PM PST by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Cyber Liberty

The country could do a lot worse than Dan Quayle (arguably, it did). Or we could've had Liddy Dole (another entry-level wannabe).


25 posted on 03/27/2006 3:28:42 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Common Tator
The national debt when Reagan took office was 780 billion dollars. When he left office it was 2,100 billion dollars. The national debt under Reagan nearly trippled. Under Reagan federal spending doubled. The national debt when Bush took office was 5.7 trillion. Under bush the national debt has not even doubled... let alone nearly trippled as it did under Reagan. The Reagan apologists used to say that Reagan was going to spend all the money so there would be nothing left for the Democrats to spend when they got in power. Reagan blamed the spending on Democrats ... but he did not veto their spending bills. He just signed them... late at night.....under cover of darkness

You have to remember , the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and Tip O'Neil always declared everyone of Reagans budgets DOA. Reagans tax policy brought in more tax dollars, but the Dems went back on their "word" in the budget deals and spent every cent of it. Now we control both houses of Congress. Both Bush ( for not using the veto ) and more to their shame, the Republican Congress are to blame

26 posted on 03/27/2006 3:30:11 PM PST by Codeograph
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To: Tanniker Smith
True, but to declare there were 6 qualified conservatives running against Bush is folly. Quayle was it, and he was damaged goods.

After the '96 fiasco, it was demonstrated that it was going to take more than a good philosopy to keep Gore from screwing the country. We needed a name-brand.

It's remarkably easy for the Bandows of the world to sit back and shoot at a Bush. They had no plan to get the 'Craps out of the White House.

27 posted on 03/27/2006 3:32:27 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Spiff

It turns my stomach to watch young guys get burned in a Bradley as an IED goes off while patrolling in a town on the Syrian border with Iraq...and then see the President scared to even call these people illegals and say that we just can't enforce our laws and deport people...real WOT...what a friggin' joke he has turned out to be.


28 posted on 03/27/2006 3:32:54 PM PST by teldon30 (Far right, elitist, sexist, cynical religious bigot and looter)
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To: Codeograph
You have to remember , the Democrats controlled both houses of Congress and Tip O'Neil always declared everyone of Reagans budgets DOA.

Jim Wright used to have a DOA party every time a Reagan budget came down.

29 posted on 03/27/2006 3:33:38 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: stopem

McCain...whom I have few doubts will be the Republican party's offering for President in '08.


30 posted on 03/27/2006 3:35:23 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("This is the sort of English up with which I will not put." Winston Churchill)
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To: Irontank

VOTE REPUBLICAN. Only because it's better than the alternative.


31 posted on 03/27/2006 3:37:08 PM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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To: groanup

I beg to differ
BETTER than the alternative? THEY are in bed with the alternative! There are absolutely no differences anymore. Very very SAD DAY in America, the Republican party we all knew aND LOVED AND SUPPORTED ALL OUR LIVES HAVE MORPHED INTO THE ALTERNATIVES!


32 posted on 03/27/2006 3:40:03 PM PST by stopem (Call any co you deal with and insist they not let any illegal work on or near your property, we did!)
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To: groanup

"VOTE REPUBLICAN. Only because it's better than the alternative."

Vote conservative. Not republican, those who vote only for republicans have no political power because your being taken for granted.


33 posted on 03/27/2006 3:40:43 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Common Tator; Irontank; All
US GDP 1975(1998 dollars): $1,630.60 billion
Federal spending: $332.33 billion
Federal debt: $541.9 billion
Median Household Income
(current dollars): $11,800
Consumer Price Index: 53.8
Unemployment: 8.5%
Cost of a first-class stamp: $0.10 ($0.13 as of 12/31/75)

The GDP today is 11.750 trillion dollars. Reagan deficient 6%, Bush deficient 2.9%

34 posted on 03/27/2006 3:49:20 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41
Regan also cut taxes by a HUGE percent. His tax cuts and massive military spending is the reason for the large deficit . Those tax cuts are also the reason the budget balanced itself under Clinton. Your not going to win converts to your neocon cause by attacking real conservatives.
35 posted on 03/27/2006 3:51:50 PM PST by RHINO369
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To: Cyber Liberty
Well, then. It's the eeeevil corporations.

No, it's the eeeevil politicians who sell out the country to line their own pockets.
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36 posted on 03/27/2006 3:52:40 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
Do you expect better of politicians? I'm serious. I've yet to meet one who wouldn't throw you under a bus in a Tennessee second if it benefited him.
37 posted on 03/27/2006 3:55:03 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2006, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: stopem

You can say nearly anything derogatory about Specter that you choose to and I will most likely agree with you, but Arlen Specter has never pretended to be conservative. He is, at least in that respect, honest. Even when he runs for re-election and moves right, he never claims to be a conservative.


38 posted on 03/27/2006 3:56:19 PM PST by penowa
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To: groanup
VOTE REPUBLICAN. Only because it's better than the alternative.

I did. It turned out to be the same as the alternative.
I won't make that mistake again.

“Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free."....Harry Browne
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39 posted on 03/27/2006 3:57:48 PM PST by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: RHINO369
Vote conservative.

Who?

My vote goes to whoever cuts taxes, eliminates government programs, puts the fair tax on the table and fights the WOT with a vengeance. The D party passes none of those tests, the R party passes some and fails others.

So again I ask: who? The FEC won't even let other parties take part in presidential debates. The congress has shut off political advertising just prior to elections.

Who?

Libertarian? Pat Buchannon? Green? Who?

I don't see anyone out there, do you? What am I missing?

40 posted on 03/27/2006 3:57:58 PM PST by groanup (Shred for Ian)
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