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[Srirangan]

The Indian Prime Minister is a Sikh, President is a Muslim and the Army chief is a Sikh. Ah yes Brahminocracy! ROFL! You are no better than the jehadi who blames the jew. Oh wait, you are the Pakistani jehadi who blames the yahood (jew) and the yanood (hindu).

[Srirangan]

> BTW, since you insist on describing the Council of Khalistan
> (falsely, as you know) as a "terrorist" organization, please
> tell us about an act of terrorism in which COK has been
> involved.

In the other thread I quoted an American govt website terming your "khalistan" movement as a terrorist movement. You pussied your way into this topic now?

Oh well, trust me, don't bother getting your jehadi terrorist @$$ to India. You'll be treated in a very special way by Indian Sikhs.

[TBP]

In the other thread I quoted an American govt website terming your "khalistan" movement as a terrorist movement.

As I said, some terrorist acts have been committed on all sides, but the FACT is that you cannot link the Council to a single terrorist act. Yet you insist on describing it as a terrorist organization, which you know to be untrue, even though it is openly committed to a peaceful, democratc, nonviolent movement to free Khalistan.

[TBP]

The Indian Prime Minister is a Sikh, President is a Muslim and the Army chief is a Sikh. Ah yes Brahminocracy!

There were Jews who worked for Hitler, too. Did that make the Third Reich any less anti-Semitic?

The fact is that the real power lies with Brahmins and these tokens serve at the pleasure of the Hindu leadership.

Furthermore, theirs is a symbolic, token presence desined to cover the fact that India has killled over 250,000 Sikhs since 1984, over 90,000 Kashmiri Muslims since 1988, over 300,000 Christians in Nagaland, Christians and Muslims in other parts of the country, and tens of thousands of Assamese, Bodos, Dalits, Manipuris, Tamils, and others.

[Gengis Khan]

>>Sindh and Balochistan have a right to self determination. <<

And Khalistan, Kashmir, and Nagaland don't?

No. Punjab, Kashmir and Nagaland have completely integrated with democratic India albeit with minor hiccups. Today all these states are participants in the great celebration of the largest, grandest, the most vibrant and diverse democracy in human history. They exercise their right to self determination everyday by being part of a democratic union and exercising all their democratic rights. Of course there are those who would like to play spoil sport but they are minuscule in number and left on their own their biggest enemy is "irrelevance".

That explains how you and your cohorts can justify India arresting Sikhs for the peaceful activities of making speeches, holding marches, raising flags, and the like, how you can justify India holding over 52,000 political prisoners, how you can justify India's support of terrorism and its anti-Americanism (a long record of it), and India's other abuses.

None of it ever happened. You have no credible sources to prove your lies and deceit. So go back to DU Mr. Liar. For seven years you tried selling you lies on this board and yet there are no takers. The pro India contingent are only growing in larger numbers.  

I quoted one line from Towns, once, and that's all you niticed. I also quoted Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Cal.), as well as Amnesty International, the Movement Against State Repression, the Punjab State Magistracy, a book by two Canadian journalists (one from the Globe and Mail and one from the Toronto Star), India Today, the Washington Times, and others. Meanwhile, you use the far-left Carnegie Endowment and the Hindu press, but mostly you use your own word as your source.

I was referring to the article that slanders India as sponsor of "cross border terrorism" ....... coming from the Pakistani lobby its a case of pot calling the kettle black but who cares about an slanderous tripe from a liberal democrat scumbag. Your only "sources" are loose words and false articles from Congressmen who also happen to be members of the Pakistani lobby. The following people :

Gurmit Aulakh (head of a dormant terrorist organization)

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Cal.) (member of the Pakistani lobby)

Rep. Dan Burton (member of the Pakistani lobby)

Rep. Edolphus Towns (Demmocrat)   (member of the Pakistani lobby)

These are low life scumbags with zero cedibility who would sell their mothers given the right price.

Take a look at what the Pakistani lobby has been upto :  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1605378/posts

Meanwhile, you use the far-left Carnegie Endowment and the Hindu press, but mostly you use your own word as your source.

Wrong Mr. liar! Take a look again. I have used sources from:

UPI, Outlook (Indian media), Asia Times (Hong Kong), The Hindu Businessline (Indian media), The Independent (UK), Pakistan-Facts (Pakistani media), India defence (Indian media), Lycos (MSM), Carnegie Endowment, World Peace Herald (MSM), Pakistan Christian Post (exiled Pakistani media), Taipei times (Taiwan). And I have used many more sources they you have (or can). My sources are from the mainstream media while your sources are mostly from terrorists organisations. Since you are a supporter of  terrorists one would expect you to quote "sources" from terrorists web sites even as you disregard genuine articles from the MSM. You show your true colors once again......... that of a terror supporter.

Now lets have a look at you links:

1.

http://www.sikhtimes.com/news_071205a.html

The above article is written by

 
Gurmit Singh Aulakh 

Head of a dormant terrorist organization

This is neither "Indian media" nor MSM.

BTW here is an article about the cheat Gurmit Aulakh: http://www.thehill.com/050102/ii_sikh.aspx

2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan

It says:

This article is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
Please help recruit one, or improve this page yourself if you can.

Wikipedia isn't a mainstream news website. At wikipedia the articles can be written by anybody even armatures and can be retracted anytime and nobody own any liability for the for whatever he/she has written. Its an open source free encyclopedia where any and everybody can contribute. Wikipedia cannot be cited as a credible source.

3.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_122...00900010001.htm

It says :

The page cannot be found

(bummer)

4.

http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/2308/2006-03-12.html

Panthic.org (a seemingly innocent looking front for Khalista terrorist organisation) Khalistani propaganda mouthpiece. Neither "Indian media" nor MSM.

5.

http://www.sikhbulletin.com/article.php?year=2005&month=12&id=6

Again the article is written by

 
Gurmit Singh Aulakh 

Head of a dormant terrorist organization

Sikhbullitine neither "Indian media" nor MSM.

6.

http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/2308/2006-03-12.html

Panthic again......

7.

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/archive/index.php/t-8663.html

The above is not even article but a post from an anonymous member of the forum. This does not even qualify as an article.

8.

http://www.nagalim.nl/news/00000126.htm

The above is a fairly neutral article that discusses border demarcation and disputes in the North East (Nagaland and Manipur)

As you can see you don't have even a single article from the MSM or the mainstream Indian media to prove any of the claims you have made so far. From the entire world wide web all you found is a handful of biased and propagandist articles (mostly the same articles from one author Gurmit Aulakh) from dubious sources with doubtful credibility.

"Your web of lies and deceit has been torn to shreds. You and like you other minions of your evil overlords now stand exposed, naked and completely defenseless against the mighty glare of truth. You days of spreading lies and falsehood is over. Go back into the darkness from whence you came and hide there in perpetuity."

So....Mr. Liar you have lost the debate fair and square. Go back to your weasel hole from where you came and never come back until you learn the ethics of truthful journalism.

>>Sindh and Balochistan have a right to self determination. <<

And Khalistan, Kashmir, and Nagaland don't?

No. Punjab, Kashmir and Nagaland have completely integrated with democratic India albeit with minor hiccups. Today all these states are participants in the great celebration of the largest, grandest, the most vibrant and diverse democracy in human history. They exercise their right to self determination everyday by being part of a democratic union and exercising all their democratic rights. Of course there are those who would like to play spoil sport but they are minuscule in number and left on their own their biggest enemy is "irrelevance".

That explains how you and your cohorts can justify India arresting Sikhs for the peaceful activities of making speeches, holding marches, raising flags, and the like, how you can justify India holding over 52,000 political prisoners, how you can justify India's support of terrorism and its anti-Americanism (a long record of it), and India's other abuses.

None of it ever happened. You have no credible sources to prove your lies and deceit. So go back to DU Mr. Liar. For seven years you tried selling you lies on this board and yet there are no takers. The pro India contingent are only growing in larger numbers.  

I quoted one line from Towns, once, and that's all you niticed. I also quoted Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Cal.), as well as Amnesty International, the Movement Against State Repression, the Punjab State Magistracy, a book by two Canadian journalists (one from the Globe and Mail and one from the Toronto Star), India Today, the Washington Times, and others. Meanwhile, you use the far-left Carnegie Endowment and the Hindu press, but mostly you use your own word as your source.

I was referring to the article that slanders India as sponsor of "cross border terrorism" ....... coming from the Pakistani lobby its a case of pot calling the kettle black but who cares about an slanderous tripe from a liberal democrat scumbag. Your only "sources" are loose words and false articles from Congressmen who also happen to be members of the Pakistani lobby. The following people :

Gurmit Aulakh (head of a dormant terrorist organization)

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Cal.) (member of the Pakistani lobby)

Rep. Dan Burton (member of the Pakistani lobby)

Rep. Edolphus Towns (Demmocrat)   (member of the Pakistani lobby)

These are low life scumbags with zero cedibility who would sell their mothers given the right price.

Take a look at what the Pakistani lobby has been upto :  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1605378/posts

Meanwhile, you use the far-left Carnegie Endowment and the Hindu press, but mostly you use your own word as your source.

Wrong Mr. liar! Take a look again. I have used sources from:

UPI, Outlook (Indian media), Asia Times (Hong Kong), The Hindu Businessline (Indian media), The Independent (UK), Pakistan-Facts (Pakistani media), India defence (Indian media), Lycos (MSM), Carnegie Endowment, World Peace Herald (MSM), Pakistan Christian Post (exiled Pakistani media), Taipei times (Taiwan). And I have used many more sources they you have (or can). My sources are from the mainstream media while your sources are mostly from terrorists organisations. Since you are a supporter of  terrorists one would expect you to quote "sources" from terrorists web sites even as you disregard genuine articles from the MSM. You show your true colors once again......... that of a terror supporter.

Now lets have a look at you links:

1.

http://www.sikhtimes.com/news_071205a.html

The above article is written by

 
Gurmit Singh Aulakh 

Head of a dormant terrorist organization

This is neither "Indian media" nor MSM.

BTW here is an article about the cheat Gurmit Aulakh: http://www.thehill.com/050102/ii_sikh.aspx

2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalistan

It says:

This article is in need of attention from an expert on the subject.
Please help recruit one, or improve this page yourself if you can.

Wikipedia isn't a mainstream news website. At wikipedia the articles can be written by anybody even armatures and can be retracted anytime and nobody own any liability for the for whatever he/she has written. Its an open source free encyclopedia where any and everybody can contribute. Wikipedia cannot be cited as a credible source.

3.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_122...00900010001.htm

It says :

The page cannot be found

(bummer)

4.

http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/2308/2006-03-12.html

Panthic.org (a seemingly innocent looking front for Khalista terrorist organisation) Khalistani propaganda mouthpiece. Neither "Indian media" nor MSM.

5.

http://www.sikhbulletin.com/article.php?year=2005&month=12&id=6

Again the article is written by

 
Gurmit Singh Aulakh 

Head of a dormant terrorist organization

Sikhbullitine neither "Indian media" nor MSM.

6.

http://www.panthic.org/news/125/ARTICLE/2308/2006-03-12.html

Panthic again......

7.

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/archive/index.php/t-8663.html

The above is not even article but a post from an anonymous member of the forum. This does not even qualify as an article.

8.

http://www.nagalim.nl/news/00000126.htm

The above is a fairly neutral article that discusses border demarcation and disputes in the North East (Nagaland and Manipur)

As you can see you don't have even a single article from the MSM or the mainstream Indian media to prove any of the claims you have made so far. From the entire world wide web all you found is a handful of biased and propagandist articles (mostly the same articles from one author Gurmit Aulakh) from dubious sources with doubtful credibility.

"Your web of lies and deceit has been torn to shreds. You and like you other minions of your evil overlords now stand exposed, naked and completely defenseless against the mighty glare of truth. You days of spreading lies and falsehood is over. Go back into the darkness from whence you came and hide there in perpetuity."

So....Mr. Liar you have lost the debate fair and square. Go back to your weasel hole from where you came and never come back until you learn the ethics of truthful journalism.

[Gengis Khan]

There were Jews who worked for Hitler, too. Did that make the Third Reich any less anti-Semitic?

Wrong analogy. In India the Prime Minister (RiechesKanzler) and  is a Sikh himself. This is like a Jew being the "RiechesKanzler" and another Jew the field Marshal of Germany. Sorry you analogy does not make the cut. Try Demmocratic Underground for buyers.

Furthermore, theirs is a symbolic, token presence desined to cover the fact that India has killled over 250,000 Sikhs since 1984, over 90,000 Kashmiri Muslims since 1988, over 300,000 Christians in Nagaland, Christians and Muslims in other parts of the country, and tens of thousands of Assamese, Bodos, Dalits, Manipuris, Tamils, and others.

You haven't proved any of it. Come back when you have proof.

The fact is that the real power lies with Brahmins and these tokens serve at the pleasure of the Hindu leadership.

The only thing you have proved so far is that your are a poor and pathetic joker a "no-show".

So go back to your burrow.

There were Jews who worked for Hitler, too. Did that make the Third Reich any less anti-Semitic?

Wrong analogy. In India the Prime Minister (RiechesKanzler) and  is a Sikh himself. This is like a Jew being the "RiechesKanzler" and another Jew the field Marshal of Germany. Sorry you analogy does not make the cut. Try Demmocratic Underground for buyers.

Furthermore, theirs is a symbolic, token presence desined to cover the fact that India has killled over 250,000 Sikhs since 1984, over 90,000 Kashmiri Muslims since 1988, over 300,000 Christians in Nagaland, Christians and Muslims in other parts of the country, and tens of thousands of Assamese, Bodos, Dalits, Manipuris, Tamils, and others.

You haven't proved any of it. Come back when you have proof.

The fact is that the real power lies with Brahmins and these tokens serve at the pleasure of the Hindu leadership.

The only thing you have proved so far is that your are a poor and pathetic joker a "no-show".

So go back to your burrow.

[indcons]

More Paki propaganda, eh? You Pakis never stop trying, do you? Give it a rest, Phares. Most of us know what kind of radical Islamic causes you support...LOL.

[TBP]

In India the Prime Minister (RiechesKanzler) and is a Sikh himself.

You know very well that the power behind the throne is the Gandhi family. They'd hold the PM's office themselves except for some personal considerations.

[TBP]

You haven't proved any of it. Come back when you have proof.

I've sourced this numerous times.

[Gengis Khan]

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Pakistan must vacate Balochistan and Sindh

[Gengis Khan]

"You know very well that the power behind the throne is the Gandhi family. They'd hold the PM's office themselves except for some personal considerations."

Sonia Gandhi isn't a Brahmin. She is not even a Hindu. You lost the argument.

"I've sourced this numerous times."

You have no credible source. You lied. Admit it.

See above post. Tell you Paki overlord to vacate Sindh and Balochistan.

[TBP]

>>Sindh and Balochistan have a right to self determination. <<

And Khalistan, Kashmir, and Nagaland don't?

No.

Your real agenda is revealed. Any part of Pakistan should be broken off, but any land that wants freedom from India isn't allowed to have it. Very interesting -- the same agenda as the Hinducrat imperialists.

None of it ever happened. You have no credible sources

No, the real truth is that you choose to ignore the sources. The FACT is that I have cited all kinds of sources, from Indian media to the Washington Times to two Canadian papers. You know that and yet you keep saying I have no sources. Curious.

As for the Sikhs being arrested in Punjab for making speeches and hoisting the flag, it was widely reported when it happened. Again, you know that to be true.

Amnesty International, the Movement Against State Repression, the Punjab State Magistracy, a book by two Canadian journalists (one from the Globe and Mail and one from the Toronto Star), India Today, the Washington Times, and others.

I was referring to the article that slanders India as sponsor of "cross border terrorism" .

? You're right; I didn't have any credible source for that -- just the Washington Times.

Gurmit Aulakh (head of a dormant terrorist organization)

Again, show me even ONE terrorist act to which this organization is connected. ONE. I've asked several times, but you can't do it.

And if the organization is dormant, how come it was still issuing press releases as late as last week?

Furthermore, I told you what really happened with the letter The Hill wrote about, and they knew that at the time they wrote the article. So that is simply NOT a valid source. (It's also a very big Democrat paper, BTW.)

And if you think the MSM is credibl;e, it just reveals that you're no FReeper, no conservative.

[NeonKnight]

Wow, talk about a hijacked thread.

[indcons]

Hijacked? Not really. I thought my post was quite relevant to the thread (considering the stuff posted by TBP).

[Gengis Khan]

Its hijacked by TBP troll.

[TBP]

Wow, talk about a hijacked thread.

Exactly. It started because Genghis and the rest of the India Lobby here on FR (whose first loyalty appears to be to Imperial India) have insisted on another thread that Pakistan is doing nothing in the War on Terror. So I showed up to say well, they don't do nearly enough, but here is one thing. They have then done nothing but deny that Pakistan is doing anything (no substanbtiation offered) and impugn my motives (ditto) for daring to point out that a country that they don't like is doing anything, however small, to help. Everything is an India vs. Pakistan issue with them, so they can't acknowledge anything that Pakistan does to help us, like the so-called "civil rights leaders" who can't acknowledge the racial progress America has made.

Their real agenda is revealed in their insistence that any democratic, peaceful, nonviolent movement for freedom is terrorism and that while Sindh and Balochistan (part of Pakistan) should be independent, the peoples of Khalsitan, Kashmir, Nagaland, and other minority nations under Indian control should not be able even to decide the issue in a vote, let alone actually become independent.

[TBP]

Sonia Gandhi isn't a Brahmin. She is not even a Hindu.

Well, that is debatable. I've seen reports that she is still Catholic and other reports that she has become Hindu over the years, so take your pick. Her kids are, her husband was, her mother-in-law was. And they are or were pillars of the Hindu establishment. The Congress Party is still a Hindu party.

You have no credible source.

Check again, liar. I have listed the sources numerous times. Unless you consider the Washington Times, reporters from the Globe and Mail and the Toronto Star, India Today, a amjor human-rights organization, Members of Congress, and others are less credible than your left-wing and Indian sources.