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Judge in Dover case reports hostile e-mails
York Daily Record [Penna] ^ | 24 March 2006 | LAURI LEBO

Posted on 03/24/2006 4:03:39 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: mikeus_maximus

Ho hum.... another day, another simplistic mischaraterization of Intelligent Design Theory...
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How so? Did the designer not create the designs? Certainly if one is going to posit a designer, it certainly follows that the designer (or the designers designated agent) followed through and created according to the plans drawn up by the designer. Hence, there is a "creator". If there is no creator, how did the designs come to fruition?


21 posted on 03/24/2006 5:45:10 AM PST by dmz
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To: PatrickHenry
While no single e-mail may have reached the level of a direct threat...

It appears that public officials prefer the sheep to meekly accept whatever ruling they make. Voicing dissent must be crushed.

22 posted on 03/24/2006 5:53:21 AM PST by GingisK
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To: PatrickHenry
Celebrity victim status. Get some! / sarc

The nutjob of a judge is in less danger than almost anyone on the planet. I am sure that prominent ID supporters have been subjected to the same sort of thing, and no one cares. No one is up in arms. But the darling of the atheist left? Well!

Now if he were a believing Christian, a convert from Islam, in Afghanistan, I'd be concerned for his safety. For that matter, if he were merely an avowed atheist living in any Islamic country he'd require round-the-clock protection, which he wouldn't get.

23 posted on 03/24/2006 6:01:22 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: kittymyrib
Do you really believe all these whining liberals' claims of death threats?

Judge Jones is no liberal.

24 posted on 03/24/2006 6:25:46 AM PST by highball (Proud to announce the birth of little Highball, Junior - Feb. 7, 2006!)
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To: Physicist
Creationists can't denounce him as an activist while howling about his adhering too closely to precedent.

Can so too!

(don't expect consistancy from Creationists)

25 posted on 03/24/2006 6:41:30 AM PST by Oztrich Boy (Have a beer (Offer not vaild in Canada)
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To: Just mythoughts
Prevention of the end of civilization requires action, so how far are the darwinists willing to go to protect their civilization?

Paging Nehemiah Scudder. Pick up the white courtesy telephone please.

26 posted on 03/24/2006 6:41:52 AM PST by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Coyoteman
"Paging Nehemiah Scudder. Pick up the white courtesy telephone please."


LOL making my point!!! Course I did have to 'google' him.
27 posted on 03/24/2006 6:52:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: PatrickHenry
Just what you expect from the Holy Warrior nutcases.
28 posted on 03/24/2006 6:52:34 AM PST by VadeRetro (I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
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To: linda_22003

In fairness, the judge had no choice but to rule the way he did because of bad earlier Supreme Court precedent. Similar to Judge Alito once striking down a Pennsylvania pro-life statute.

However, at the time may of us noted that Jones could have simply issued a routine ruling citing precedent and left it at that. The fact that he issued such a rhetorically harsh, grandstanding type ruling made it apparent that he was playing to the media and the leftist law journal crowd. In other words, the Greenhouse Effect was Souterizing him.

His whining and his joining in with O'Connor & Ginzburg on their silly crusade to shut down any disagreement with liberal rulings only confirms that this is the case.


29 posted on 03/24/2006 7:06:26 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: puroresu

He was "rhetorically harsh" because he didn't appreciate the ID people making up stories that might fly whenever it suited them to do so, and he called them on it.


30 posted on 03/24/2006 7:09:00 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: PatrickHenry
The writers argue that Jones' decision was the work of "an activist judge" and that he ignored the science behind intelligent design.

DI was given the opprotunity to present their "science behind intelligent design".

Why didn't they?

31 posted on 03/24/2006 7:10:24 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: linda_22003

Nah, we was playing to the press corps.


32 posted on 03/24/2006 7:12:25 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: puroresu

You was?


33 posted on 03/24/2006 7:16:22 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Just mythoughts

If by "Darwininsts" you mean scientists who understand evolutionary biolgy and do reaearch in the field, then don't worry.

Places like Japan, Germany, Israel, China and India have plenty of scientists to take up the slack.


34 posted on 03/24/2006 7:16:58 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: linda_22003

LOL! Typo!


35 posted on 03/24/2006 7:18:14 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: linda_22003

LOL.


36 posted on 03/24/2006 7:19:06 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: puroresu

No, he was disgusted by perjury committed in the name of religion.


37 posted on 03/24/2006 7:19:50 AM PST by From many - one.
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To: Senator Bedfellow

How are you today, senator? Long time no see!


38 posted on 03/24/2006 7:20:51 AM PST by puroresu (Conservatism is an observation; Liberalism is an ideology)
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To: From many - one.
... he was disgusted by perjury committed in the name of religion.

And other examples of creationist fraud that turned up, such as the slimeball attempt to pass of that creationist tract, Pandas and People, as a science book:

As Plaintiffs meticulously and effectively presented to the Court, Pandas went through many drafts, several of which were completed prior to and some after the Supreme Court's decision in Edwards [Edwards v. Aguillard], which held that the Constitution forbids teaching creationism as science. By comparing the pre and post Edwards drafts of Pandas, three astonishing points emerge:
(1) the definition for creation science in early drafts is identical to the definition of ID;

(2) cognates of the word creation (creationism and creationist), which appeared approximately 150 times were deliberately and systematically replaced with the phrase ID; and

(3) the changes occurred shortly after the Supreme Court held that creation science is religious and cannot be taught in public school science classes in Edwards.

This word substitution is telling, significant, and reveals that a purposeful change of words was effected without any corresponding change in content, which directly refutes FTE's [FTE = the Foundation for Thought and Ethics, the publisher of Pandas] argument that by merely disregarding the words "creation" and "creationism," FTE expressly rejected creationism in Pandas. In early pre-Edwards drafts of Pandas, the term "creation" was defined as "various forms of life that began abruptly through an intelligent agency with their distinctive features intact -- fish with fins and scales, birds with feathers, beaks, and wings, etc," the very same way in which ID is defined in the subsequent published versions.
Source: Kitzmiller et al. v Dover Area School District et al.
39 posted on 03/24/2006 7:24:41 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Yo momma's so fat she's got a Schwarzschild radius.)
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To: From many - one.
"Places like Japan, Germany, Israel, China and India have plenty of scientists to take up the slack."


I understand, does create a career threatening scenario. Darwinist might take note, and be a bit more grateful to those of US that fund their careers.
40 posted on 03/24/2006 7:25:26 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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