Microsoft Vista: Not 'People Ready'

Forbes ^ | 3-22-2006 | Daniel Lyons

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Hank Rearend Alert!!!

Hank Rearend doesn't sleep; he waits...to bash anything pro Apple.

IBTH (In Before the Hank)

"Why not at least switch to an Apple Computer (nasdaq: AAPL - news - people ) Mac? Apple's new operating system is stable, reliable and easy to use. The applications are simple, gorgeous and work well together. And they're here. Today. Steve Jobs must be waking up a happy man this morning."

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PING

[Izzy Dunne]

Looks like Leopard might be here before Vista.

[Ticonderoga34]

I switched to Apple and I'm glad I did. I don't have to worry about any of this Micro$oft insanity.

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Looks like Leopard might be here before Vista.

Maybe they should rename it "Cheetah", for out sprinting Vista.

[staytrue]

I think Hank is busy at a Schwarzennegger/Bush rally.

[TexasGreg]

Ping

[Cicero]

I think Daniel Lyons doesn't like Microsoft.

I dunno. WindowsME was a big mistake, but otherwise I think every new MS operating system has been better than the last. I like WinXP. I have two laptops that still have Win2000 on them, and it's nice and stable, but I like XP better.

So, maybe Vista will be the new Windows Millennium. Or maybe not. This reporter sounds too biased to trust.

[Astronaut]

Hah hah Vista delayed again! How can it take 5 years for Microsoft to release what is essentially XP SP 3? All the innovation like WinFS has been stripped out of Vista. Its just eye candy to compete with OS X. Too bad that the Macintosh is class while Windows has been and always will be an inferior, tacky copy.

[Psycho_Bunny]

El poocho de screwo.

[JamesP81]

I'd use apple if my games would run on it, but the big game companies just don't make Mac versions of their software, and on the occasions that they do, they generally hit the market a year after the PC versions.

Linux might be free, but I've used it and it is nowhere near ready to be a mainstream consumer desktop OS, nor was it ever originally intended to be one. Monolithic kernel OS's like Linux present some unique problems for desktop use. Not insurmountable, as OS X is FreeBSD, but some of these issues the open-source community, frankly, hasn't dealt with and I don't know that they intend to. The Open Source community is filled with programmers and their OS reflects that. Being a small-time open source programmer myself, I of all people would understand that.

Now, Linux is, without a doubt, an excellent server OS and tends to be more reliable than Windows Server. As always, choose the right tools for the job.

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The reporter obviously is pro Mac; so am I. But I don't have a big ax to grind with Windows users. That stuff is petty; which is why Hank's ubiquitous, snide burpings on every Apple thread are so puerile.

I have to use both at work and while I'm glad to be skilled at both platforms, the Mac is just a joy to use compared to Windows for me personally. I really appreciate the elegance and stability. If Windows does it for you, that's cool too.

[Psycho_Bunny]

Sounds like this party was much more fun than the Microsoft CRM 3.0 and the .NET releases I went to.....not to mention a few others.

I walked out of the .NET release because it was obvious the entire presentation was geared to people who run "sites with tens of thousands of images that are cross-platform with high traffic"

I.E. porn sites.

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Heh heh!

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"Microsoft Vista: Not 'People Ready'"

For a second, reading the headline, I thought maybe they came up with an operating system with no bugs and wanted to do some stuff to make it like what people are used to from Microsoft.

[JamesP81]

Hah hah Vista delayed again! How can it take 5 years for Microsoft to release what is essentially XP SP 3?

Microsoft's setbacks might be humorous, but Vista is most certainly not XP SP3. In fact, IIRC, isn't even NT kernel like Windows 2000 and XP are. They essentially wrote a new kernel from scratch, using nothing as a based to build from. It won't even run Win32 code natively. Win32 programs have to be emulated (although, that emulation is very fast and seamless, so far. At least that's what my friend who is beta testing it is telling me).

[Psycho_Bunny]

That stuff is petty; which is why Hank's ubiquitous, snide burpings on every Apple thread are so puerile.

Let's not pretend there aren't Apple and Linux FReepers who do the exact same thing, and aren't every bit as bad.

Personally, I won't hire someone who can't see operating systems as tools, each with their own use, strengths and weaknesses.

Apple, Linux, BSD, Windows, MPE/IX, etc......they're all awesome in their own ways.

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I think Hank is busy at a Schwarzennegger/Bush rally.

I guess I should have given him a courtesy ping, but somehow I just couldn't bring myself to initiate another go around with him. Besides, courtesy obviously isn't his long suit.

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"Mac is just a joy to use compared to Windows for me personally. I really appreciate the elegance and stability. If Windows does it for you, that's cool too."

I'm a windows user who occasionally uses a mac, and I don't really see a difference in ease-of-use, stability, security, or anything else. If at all, I give a slight edge to windows just from more experience. So what, exactly is the big fuss about?