Posted on 03/20/2006 9:36:15 AM PST by robowombat
CBart95, please quit while you're ahead. I see what you are trying to say in your posts, the unfortunate thing is we live in a world where people and programs are abused daily by those seeking greater power for themselves. Based on your writing style, I fear that you're likely a youngster who hasn't experienced enough in this world to speak about these surveillance techniques from a mature perspective. It is very common for young students to embrace a socialist approach to what they feel is "fair" and many folks in America tend to outgrow those notions as they become adults.
ActionNewsBill, you are absolutely 100% correct in what you've illustrated. I'm becoming more convinced that kids like CBart95 who grew up without witnessing firsthand totalitarian superpowers like the former Soviet Union can't grasp the theories or otherwise comprehend these threats. We'll just need to keep helping them right their ways and reverse the damage caused by television indoctrination, public education, and things like that. The idea of RFID use, cameras, monitoring staff, and other government surveillance programs is frightening for a free society.
~ Blue Jays ~
We're in complete agreement.
To add to your nightmare scenario, could you imagine the part of the testimony where the wife "forgets" to tell the court they had a huge backyard hamburger & hotdog barbecue with thirty-five friends and family members in attendance? Suddenly a couple cases of beer aren't quite so threatening. The so-called innocuous little RFID tags can't prove that part of the story, though.
~ Blue Jays ~
"Congress shall make no law...abridging...the right of the people to peaceably assemble...
Suppose you were having a gathering of like-minded individuals to discuss politics in the 30 days before an election in violation of McCain/Fiengold campaign finance laws. If the driver's license or money or passport or anything you are required to carry has an RFID tag in it that identifies you directly, the government can know you were there and then use that information against you. If they have no way of knowing the movements of people in a free society without tagging us, we retain the right of the people to peaceably assemble.
Maybe a bit of a stretch, but indicative of the possibilities on that slippery slope we head down.
SW you're over-reacting.
The McCain-Fiengold Bill does'nt prohibit assembly...it has nothing to do with lawful assembly.
So you are sending up a "Straw Man", presumably to promote confusion and undue concern over ridiculous hypothetical circumstances.
Overstating the "Enormous Threat To Individual Liberty" is a deliberate attempt to "Poison the Well".
These aren't conservative tactics, they are easily left-wing in nature and intended to undermine confidence in our leadership.
There's nothing "conservative" about advocating RFID tracking chips for all citizens.
That kind of thinking reeks of totalitarianism.
People should not be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people.
You might give some thought to reading what you see more accurately.
You seem to be off fighting windmills. Fact is you always appear "ready to go to battle". Is there something in your makeup that causes that pugnacity that you want to talk about? Say, a lifelong resentment?
Or a physical inadequacy? Maybe you are too short?
People who are always in attack mode never seem to be very happy.
Yes...I do not like people who are willing to trade freedom for security.
It's simply un-American to do so.
There you go again.
Judging and making judgements.
A veritable "traffic Cop" of civil behavior issuing your "citations" right and left.
Oh well, idle hands are the Devil's playmates.
Toodles!
I will live my life by Franklin's words : "Those who give up essential liberties for security deserve neither".
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