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Securing America’s Borders
NRO ^ | March 17, 2006 | Senator Bill Frist

Posted on 03/19/2006 10:35:37 AM PST by neverdem

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To: eskimo

Have you ever noticed that VERY FEW of our representative and senators have their e-mails listed anywhere? I get a publication that has all of the information on Congress, even down to the listing of each person's religion and VERY FEW have their e-mails listed. Makes one wonder, doesn't it?


41 posted on 03/19/2006 2:12:13 PM PST by ImpotentRage
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To: B4Ranch; All
The two plans Bush offered was a joke. A disgusting joke. The last thing he wanted to do was to fund law enforcement to secure our borders. Thank him for the diseases that are making children sick. Thank him for the diseases that are reappearing in America, the ones we had wiped out. Thank him for the criminals who are being arrested by ICE Agents.

You are the one who doesn't know hwo things work.

I've been voting for 40 years but have notice people crossing the border for at least 60 years. Bush brought everyone of them here against the wishes of all the other Presidents and prevent congress from making and enforcing any laws. That Bush is one supernatural dude. Now he is running around in the darkness of night infecting people with diseases. No other thought is needed. Most freepers can reduce their vocaulary to one word!!!!! BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!, BUSH!!!!,

42 posted on 03/19/2006 2:14:20 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: neverdem
What Frist is proposing is superior to the views of George Allen, who isn't demonstrably superior to the Bush Administration on illegal immigration. In this interview with a conservative publication, Allen had the perfect opportunity to make a credible stance, but said nothing.

George Allen interview January 07, 2006

NCC: What are your views on illegal immigration?

This issue must finally be addressed - it is undermining our security and the rule of law. First and foremost, we must secure our borders. Finally, this is being done. We need more personnel and more detention centers. Catch and release doesn't work. We need to invest in technology, heat sensors and a virtual fence, unmanned drones that can patrol the border and use infra-red sensors to detect people crossing at night.

[Everything he says here is also said by the Bush Administration, this includes the "virtual" fence, whose only purpose is to provide an excuse for avoiding an effective physical barrier. At least Frist adds physical barrier to his "virtual" one.]

We should not reward illegal behavior through amnesty. This will only beget more criminal behavior.

[This is nearly identical to what Bush said in the 3rd 2004 Debate: "Now, it's very important for our citizens to also know that I don't believe we ought to have amnesty. I don't think we ought to reward illegal behavior."]

We must reform legal immigration. We need a guest worker program to fill the needs of employers. The guest workers must be checked out and have background checks, so we know they aren't terrorists or criminals. We also need to expand seasonal visas for people who come just to work and not to live here. We also need to make it easier for people who come here legally to become citizens.

[This is all present Bush Administration policy]

I see no difference between George Allen's positions, and the Bush Administration's disastrous border policy.

43 posted on 03/19/2006 2:14:50 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: jec41

Your adoration of BUSH is amazing.


44 posted on 03/19/2006 2:20:02 PM PST by B4Ranch (The truth is good for you, like sunlight, but too much all at once can really hurt.)
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To: jec41; B4Ranch
It's all JFK's fault!!!!!!!!

To bad he's not is a position to do anything about it.

Bush on the other hand, is in a position to do something about and refuses too.
45 posted on 03/19/2006 2:22:19 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Marine Inspector
Bush on the other hand, is in a position to do something about and refuses too.

What is it that he can do and he refuses to.

46 posted on 03/19/2006 2:34:26 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: B4Ranch
Your adoration of BUSH is amazing.

No I don't have any overwhelming admiration of Bush but he is not responsible for everything. If you were president tomorrow what action would you take to stop immigration without breaking the Law? By the way most expect it to be done in a week.

47 posted on 03/19/2006 2:40:16 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Marine Inspector

If you were president tomorrow what action would you take to stop immigration without breaking the Law? By the way most expect it to be done in a week.


48 posted on 03/19/2006 2:41:01 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41
What is it that he can do and he refuses to.

That list would be quite long, so I’ll just point out a couple.

1. Punish Mexico for its blatant support of illegal immigration. This can be done by not issuing visa's to Mexico. His father did it to India during Gulf War 1. Works wonders.

2. Stop giving foreign aid to countries that support illegal immigration.

3. Increasing the number of officer enforcing Immigration Law; and not by 250. We lose twice that each year in retirement and attrition.

All can be done by executive order, without Congressional approval.

49 posted on 03/19/2006 2:44:40 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: jec41
If you were president tomorrow what action would you take to stop immigration without breaking the Law?

First off, no one is talking about stopping immigration. Let's call it by it's real name. Illegal Immigration.

1. Punish Mexico for its blatant support of illegal immigration. I would recall our ambassador and stop issuing visa's to Mexico.

2. Stop giving foreign aid to countries that support illegal immigration, starting with Mexico and it's southern neighbors.

3. Increasing the number of officer enforcing Immigration Law.

4. Order the AG to have CBP use "Expedited Removal" on all 20+ inadmissibility laws, not just 2.

I could go on and on.

50 posted on 03/19/2006 2:48:56 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Marine Inspector
Some Underwhelmed by Border Patrol Personnel Increases
By Patrick Yoest, CQ Staff
The Department of Homeland Security’s budget for 2006 will include increases in Border Patrol personnel and detention beds, but the size of the increases has some immigration control advocates grumbling.

Congress provided funds for 500 new agents in a supplemental spending bill for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan passed in May (PL 109-13), and it added another 1,000 in the DHS spending bill recently signed into law (PL 109-90). But an authorization bill for DHS (HR 1817) and an intelligence reform law passed last December (PL 108-458) require the addition of 2,000 Border Patrol agents, 500 more than Congress actually provided.

Sens. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, and John Ensign, R-Nev., sponsored legislation earlier this year that would have provided the full 2,000 agents.

A spokesman for Hutchison said the senator was not satisfied with the outcome of the appropriations process.

“She’s happy that we met three-fourths of our goal here but it’s still far from enough,” said Chris Paulitz, Hutchison’s communications director. “We need some bold action here, and we’re trying to fill a hole in a dam with a Band-Aid.”

Additionally, the DHS appropriations bill fell short of Congress’ earlier call for an increase in detention beds. The 2004 intelligence reform bill mandated 40,000 new beds, to be provided in increments of 8,000 beds between fiscal 2006 and fiscal 2010. But the appropriations bill includes funding for only 2,300 new beds.

Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, said that Congress’ reluctance to hire more Border Patrol agents is not only a question of paying the agents, but of training them as well.

“You don’t just create Border Patrol out of the blue,” Krikorian said in a telephone interview. “They’ve got to speak Spanish, have firearms training, all that stuff.”

Military aid to Mexico from the United States has remained suspended since last autumn because a dispute related to the International Criminal Court (ICC), U.S. media reported Wednesday.

The sanctions were imposed last October after Mexico became a signatory to the Hague-based ICC, which was set up in 2002 to hunt down perpetrators of genocide and other crimes against humanity.

Mexico is the 12th country from Latin America sanctioned by the U.S. government under a law that was approved by the U.S. Congress four years ago to shield Americans, especially overseas-based troops, diplomats and agents, from ICC jurisdiction.

The sanctions have cost Mexico some 1.1 million U.S. dollars of U.S. aid for anti-terror and anti-narcotics training, and a 2.5 million-dollar program to provide anti-terror equipment to the Mexican military.

This can be done by not issuing visa's to Mexico is a violation of our trade agreements Mixco. It could be done if you don't mind them selling their oil to China. China has already opened large ports there.
51 posted on 03/19/2006 3:01:14 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41

I could care less who Mexico sells it's oil too.

BTW, the article is what Congress did, not Bush.


52 posted on 03/19/2006 3:03:32 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: Marine Inspector

You must have some source of funds other than congress, they already refuse to fund the new border agents.

Order the AG to have CBP use "Expedited Removal" on all 20+ inadmissibility laws, not just 2. would be held up in the courts for years.

Punish Mexico for its blatant support of illegal immigration. I would recall our ambassador and stop issuing visa's to Mexico and Mexico would cut its oil impors to the US.

The primary reason we have illigal immigration on the Mexican border is that to a degree the border states look the other way and do not enforce their own state laws. Its good for business and votes.


53 posted on 03/19/2006 3:14:10 PM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: jec41
would be held up in the courts for years.

Nope. ER's are not reviewable by the courts.

54 posted on 03/19/2006 4:23:26 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: jec41
Mexico would cut its oil impors to the US.

Easily replaceable.

55 posted on 03/19/2006 4:24:50 PM PST by Marine Inspector (Government is not the solution to our problem; Government is the problem)
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To: jec41
What is it that he can do and he refuses to.

In response to a question Bill O'Reilly asked on his show regarding enforcing the law at the border Bush replied, "I am not going to." That was the end of the matter.

btw, "All the way."
56 posted on 03/20/2006 9:59:10 AM PST by GarySpFc (de oppresso liber)
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To: GarySpFc
The border problem will be solved if and when there is enough pressure on congress to make them act. Any act by Bush would be seen as seizing congressional authority and would be opposed by congress. It would be a political firestorm and one that Bush could not win.

BTW; Yes, all the way.
57 posted on 03/20/2006 10:15:59 AM PST by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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