Foie gras industry's goose cooked

Jerusalem Post ^ | 3-19-06 | DANIEL KENNEMER

[Cvengr]

+ = HMMMMM..Fricasseed Rabbit

[Savage Beast]

NO. I am definitely not a Democrat. My parents, grandparents, and great grandparents were all Democrats. If they were alive today, they would repudiate the Democrat Party and everything it represents immediately and in no uncertain terms. My mother became a Republican shortly before she died. My children are ALL Republicans, I am very proud to say.

[JCEccles]

What do you make of the fact that animals eat one another with gusto and without the least amount of guilt? In fact, they usually don't even bother to kill the loser in the struggle. They just swallow it whole and let it die on the way down the gullet.

[Savage Beast]

It was my comma. I'm sure Oprah knows better. Anyway, I think I used it correctly. Since the subject in the vocative case is you (understood), the sentence could be simple or compound; isn't that right? (It's been a long time since I studied college grammar.)

Maybe Oprah can tell us.

HEY, OPRAH! Are you reading this? What's the proper use of the comma in this case???

[bcsco]

"With a glass of Dunkel Weizen Beir mit Zitrone.... mmmm."

Das ist ja wohl die Höhe [That really is the limit]! I was stationed in Germany and schnitzel was a staple when off base. Fortunately, we have a small family restaurant here in town (a small farming community) that serves breaded viel cutlets. The Zitrone on the side for squishing over the cutlets makes it all real. They don't serve the beer, though.

[Savage Beast]

Yes. And a vegetarian. And a non-Democrat! And somebody who hates cruelty, a sadophobe? sadomasochistophobe??

[SamAdams76]

Their is a lot of hypocrisy in the "animal cruelty" movement. The fact is, when animals are in their natural environment, nearly all of them are killed by predators. Every waking moment of a typical animal's life in the wild is devoted to survival, be it obtaining food (which often included killing other animals) or avoiding being some other animal's food.

Therefore, when animals are raised on farms, where they are protected from predators and fed, it is the best life they could ever imagine!

[Hardastarboard]

If you've ever spent any time around cattle, you know that they're basically so stupid that they're just a big meaty high protein vegetable with hooves. They were meant to be eaten.

[Savage Beast]

"What do you make of the fact that animals eat one another" etc.

I think they like to do that. ~S

[MrsEmmaPeel]

I think the problem with your posts is that many people here simply do not know what is done to the animal (as distinct from a cow, chicken or fish) in order to get their tasty veal. Once I learned, I gave up eating veal. I still eat other meats, but veal is off the menu as far as I'm concerned.

[Servant of the 9]

The death knell should also be sounded on the veal industry. No one should support animal cruelty.

There is nothing cruel about the way geese are fattened today. It is significantly different from the way it was done before WWII.

You are believing PETA Propaganda.

So9

[JCEccles]

There is an animal behaviorist, I think her name is Tempel Grandin, who has been instrumental in helping slaughterhouses redesign their operations so that the killing is humane and done without causing the animals to experience terror. She has an interesting view on things, being high autistic herself. She believes animals are essentially autistic and that while they experience pain and terror, they don't really experience suffering and foreboding. The latter are subjective experiences that require prefrontal lobes which animals either lack or mostly lack.

Grandin also views the meat industry as an overall positive for the animals in that it is the reason these animals get to experience life at all. She also points out that most ranchers and farmers are careful to give their meat animals decent lives (compared to animals in the wild, most of which either starve or are brutally killed or eaten by predators) because healthy animals bring the best prices.

My personal view on on animal cruelty is that it is bad not so much because of what it does to the animal (although that must be given due weight), but because of what it does to the human who engages in it. Cruelty coarsens and brutalizes the soul that belongs to God. From men, God loves and seeks kindness, not cruelty. So, the slaughter of food animals should be done humanely and without terrorizing or inflicting unnecessary pain on the animal even if that is not the practice followed by carnivores in the wild.

[Servant of the 9]

For beyond cute, you should meet my pet goose 'Sylvester'. He is 14 years old and runs free range on my land. He has survived coyotes, racoons, bobcats, etc. I have to replinish his social circle with goose friends every year. Every year he, alone, survives. Sylvester would protect me with his life. He is a true friend with a loyalty and discrete thinking that matches any family canine. I love this little guy.

Now imagine someone kneeling beside Sylvester, putting one arm around him and using it to raise his head and then pouring grain down his throat. That's the way geese are fattened. Do you really think anyone could do that to a goose without protest if it was at all painful? The goose would beat you half to death.

So9

[Dutch Boy]

I was station at Baumholder for about 2 1/2 years.

[SUSSA]

The death knell should also be sounded on the veal industry. No one should support animal cruelty.

....and next...the fish, fowl, pork, lamb, and standard beef industries? Where does this animal cruelty issue stop? Will it stop at roach protection (lobsters).....?

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Soylent Green

[bcsco]

"I was station at Baumholder for about 2 1/2 years."

I was at Erlangen (straight East of you & just North of Nurnberg) for 1 1/2 years; '66 - '68. There was a ridge line North of town where farmers grew strawberries and made strawberry wine for local consumption. At the Western end of the ridge sat a restaurant with open patio seating looking over the town. It was a favorite stop on Sundays for their fantastic pastries which, of course, went down quite well with the wine. Another restaurant in town had the best wiener schnitzel, and a second had the greatest gansbraten (roast goose) I've ever had. Boy, what food!

[adam_az]

"The death knell should also be sounded on the veal industry. No one should support animal cruelty."

Very easily extended to any meat consumption at all!

[adam_az]

Sounds like something out Ruarks grandfather would have told him in The Old Man and the Boy.

[adam_az]

I ate at a great german place in Anaheim a few weeks ago called Jaegerhaus - they have goose, duck, elk, venison, VEAL, etc, on the menu. Everything cooked from scratch. Superb!

[bcsco]

I live in Northern Illinois. We have a decent German restaurant in Rockford. There are some in Chicago, and a small town in Wisconsin, New Glarus, has a hotel with a fine little restaurant. Other than that it's kind of sparse for that cuisine. If you live close to Anaheim and can go back there readily, be sure to have spaetzle with your next meal. I just love it.

The first time I had gansbraten in Germany I didn't know what it was. But I ordered it anyway (it was Christmas and I wanted something other than the usual schnitzel). They came out with half a roast goose, dumplings, the works. Boy, was I in heaven.

When I was young we'd have relatives over after church on Christmas Eve. My mom would make a bowl of zultz (headcheese), served with warm pumpernickel, and an uncle would bring spickganz; breast of goose marinated in a brine for a week or more, then smoked for as long. It was served cold, bright and pink; a Pommern delicacy (which is where my maternal side is from). What a treat!