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1 posted on 03/18/2006 3:13:37 PM PST by NYer
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Just damnnnn OUCH

I think Rummy ancenstor came from Here GERMANY did UK Sunday Telegraph dig up Rummy German family

I hear Rumster have 4 kids and how many grandchildren already


51 posted on 03/18/2006 6:40:41 PM PST by SevenofNine (I'd rather hunt with Dick Cheney than ride with Ted Kennedy)
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Bump!


52 posted on 03/18/2006 6:42:34 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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Europe is dying.... most societies are already below replacement levels. Imagine an empty continent in two centuries. To think of the alarmists who warned us forty years ago of the specter of overpopulation. If anything, the great threat today is underpopulation. Suddenly, demography is back in the news.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

54 posted on 03/18/2006 6:44:28 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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This birth dearth seems to be affecting all of Europe. I thought I read on FR a couple months ago the French were paying families (native) something like the equivalent of $1,400/month/child to encourage more French babies.


57 posted on 03/18/2006 6:59:21 PM PST by bereanway
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Maybe they should re-start Hitlert's "Health Camps" where young German men and women were urged to produce more "super Aryans." But they won't do it. Germany is toast in one more generation, along with most of the Euros. Then they wll become Muslim countries.


63 posted on 03/18/2006 7:31:51 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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What is often overlooked when threads start on how bad it is for the Europeans' birthrates is this: have you considered that they are simply reacting to a rational belief that any children they may produce may not have a life of happiness and plenty? Look at the dearth of jobs in Europe, for example. Unemployment rates are at least twice that of the United States.

Granted, they brought poor economic times upon themselves by voting in socialist governments but that does erase the reality of poor employment prospects for any offspring. The cause of the situation is immaterial; things are what they are and will remain so for the foreseeable future.

In other words, don't automatically blame "selfishness", "feminism" and other reasons for why most of the Germans and others in Europe are having so few children. Consider the possibility that they are acting quite rationally.

69 posted on 03/18/2006 7:52:03 PM PST by OldPossum
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Moving on from 'sustainablity'
Population Politics and the Shambles of Africa

72 posted on 03/18/2006 8:12:18 PM PST by Coleus (RU-486 Kills babies and their mothers, Bush can stop this as Clinton started through executive order)
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Time to see the sights in Europe before Sharia law takes hold!


74 posted on 03/18/2006 8:23:54 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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Birth rate nosedives? That's what happens went you lose your balls.


76 posted on 03/18/2006 8:50:04 PM PST by cookcounty (Army Vet, Army Dad.)
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If the Germans had the will to maintain their territorial integrity this problem might be survivable, no matter how far down they might go population-wise or economically they might come back, but if they let foreigners take over their territory they are through, forever. The problem is that the leadership and much of the population of Germany is infected with the disease of the modern West: cultural relativism so deep that they no longer believe they have a moral right to their own territory, indeed that it is positively evil to deny that territory to others. This is a fatal belief. Population and economic decline themselves are not.


81 posted on 03/18/2006 10:52:57 PM PST by jordan8
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The birth rate in Britain is at 12 births per 1,000 residents. In France the number is 12.7, in the Netherlands 11.9, and in Ireland 15.2. In Eastern Europe and the Baltic states, birth rates are falling as well. Poland’s rate is 9.3, Bulgaria is at 9 and Latvia has one of the lowest rates, at 8.8.

I'll bet not one of those countries is on Right Guard's Top 100 Countries By Sales Volume list.

Coincidence?

91 posted on 03/19/2006 4:00:11 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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I recommend caution, when it comes to heaping criticism on the Germans...it is happening in all western countries;
abortion plus feminism, equals genocide....
92 posted on 03/19/2006 4:07:26 PM PST by thinking
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I don't see how the birthrate is down. The girls in Germany must have changed since I was a young, single soldier in the late 1970's.


97 posted on 03/20/2006 12:21:11 AM PST by truemiester (If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years)
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In France the number is 12.7, in the Netherlands 11.9, and in Ireland 15.2.

Ireland's rate is still high - for now.

103 posted on 03/20/2006 3:27:20 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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There are an awful lot of ethnic Germans in the United States, myself included. Maybe more than there are in Germany, for all I know. Too bad there is absolutely nothing in the old country that would entice them to return. Who wants to sign on for the demographic collapse, and pay all one's life into a welfare scheme only to have your throat slit on the day you retire?


107 posted on 03/20/2006 5:13:34 PM PST by bondjamesbond (RICE '08)
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