Skip to comments.
If your mutual funds own newspaper stock, you may have a problem
self, moneycentral.msn.com
| 18 March 2006
| Grampa Dave
Posted on 03/18/2006 8:33:10 AM PST by Grampa Dave
click here to read article
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-57 next last
To: syriacus; LS
"Interesting thread. I had no idea that mutual funds had invested in formerly renowned news businesses."
Their massive ownership via institutions, mutual funds, investment firms and pension funds may explain why they are so arrogant about poing 62 million potential readers, subscribers and advertisers.
21
posted on
03/18/2006 8:57:07 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
To: ASA Vet
"I kinda like animal experiment labs and mink farms too."
Define "mink".
On second thought, please don't.
22
posted on
03/18/2006 8:58:15 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
To: Grampa Dave
I never thought that I would live to see the day that these
leftist baffoons would die a slow, lingering death.
I'm in small caps - up 20% in 10 mos and getting ready to go short unless oil continues its death spiral.
Go Nukes!
23
posted on
03/18/2006 8:59:10 AM PST
by
spanalot
To: Grampa Dave
Ah, you know me to well....haha
24
posted on
03/18/2006 8:59:36 AM PST
by
ASA Vet
(Those who talk don't know, those who know don't talk.)
To: Grampa Dave
Anyone that invests in mutual funds
BETTER have a pretty good idea where that fund invests its money. The last thing a mutual fund investor wants to have is extensive overlap in each funds' holdings.
I susbscribe to the Morningstar website and use their "x-ray" tools. They will break down the mutual fund investments for you in great detail. You can determine what companies or what industries you are investing in (and if it is foreign or local, etc...).
25
posted on
03/18/2006 9:01:08 AM PST
by
trashcanbred
(Anti-social and anti-socialist)
To: groanup
Go for it, if you think that it is good buy! I don't invest in cr$p.
26
posted on
03/18/2006 9:01:21 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
To: Grampa Dave
It looks like VICEX has gone up from 99.50 to 109.5 in the last 4 months. 9% in 4 months not too bad.
27
posted on
03/18/2006 9:06:34 AM PST
by
trashcanbred
(Anti-social and anti-socialist)
To: Grampa Dave
It's hard for me to do so, but I'll shift into serious mode for a bit.
My only investments are via the Government TSP. There are basically 5 places to have "shares."
G fund which is special issued US government bonds which have a fairly low but safe rate of return. Usually slightly better than inflation.
F fund which is financial instruments of some sort. This always seems to be a loser.
S fund which tracks the S&P 500.
C fund which is small caps.
I fund which is international stocks.
Currently the largest return is in the I fund followed by the C fund and then the S fund.
I'm 100% in the I fund now.
/ serious mode (that was painful.)
28
posted on
03/18/2006 9:13:05 AM PST
by
ASA Vet
(Those who talk don't know, those who know don't talk.)
To: Grampa Dave
LOL. Those numbers aren't crap.
29
posted on
03/18/2006 9:14:42 AM PST
by
groanup
(Shred for Ian)
To: Grampa Dave
Private Capital Management [naples] 20,711,612 -1,020,821 -5.0 -98,717,744
Looks like those guys have lost almost $100,000,000 on that investment. Am I reading that correctly?
30
posted on
03/18/2006 9:15:52 AM PST
by
krb
(ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
To: 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot
31
posted on
03/18/2006 9:26:10 AM PST
by
groanup
(Shred for Ian)
To: krb
Am I reading that correctly? No. They had 20,711,612 shares. They sold 1,020,821 which was 5% of their holding of NYT. They have $98,717,744 less of the NYT stock than they did during the last reporting period.
32
posted on
03/18/2006 9:35:29 AM PST
by
Toddsterpatriot
(Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
To: Toddsterpatriot
Thanks for explaining that to me.
33
posted on
03/18/2006 9:48:32 AM PST
by
krb
(ad hominem arguments are for stupid people)
To: Grampa Dave
I suspect that the internet will end up being to newspapers what the digital camera was to 35mm film.
34
posted on
03/18/2006 9:49:49 AM PST
by
Old_Mil
(http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
To: ASA Vet
35
posted on
03/18/2006 10:05:40 AM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
To: Grampa Dave
The S&P 500 index has several news organization in it, including Dow Jones (DJ), Gannett (GCI), New York Times (NYT), Tribune (TRB), Knight-Ridder (KRI), and EW Scripps (SSP).
If you have shares in any S&P 500 index you effectively own shares in these corporations.
While the stock price of many news organizations is declining, the S&P 500 index is up about 4.7% so far this year.
As specific news organizations become less and less viable (and therefore smaller and smaller in terms of market cap) they will likely be removed from the S&P 500.
One scenario is acquisition and divestment like the current McClatchy situation.
To: ovs.in.texas
Exactly.
That is why the S&P funds show ownership in many of these funds like the Vanguard S&P 500 fund.
However, with the valuation drops that many of these stocks have had in two years, the big question should S&P replace some of them with their regular changes in what makes up the S&P 500.
37
posted on
03/18/2006 10:17:49 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
To: Grampa Dave
Good thread, Dave!
Thanks for the links....saved me time perusing prospectus.
I recommend Washington Mutual Investors Fund; bought in at a post 9/11 low and gained steadily.
38
posted on
03/18/2006 10:19:42 AM PST
by
BIGLOOK
(Order of Battle: Sink or capture as Prize, MS Media)
To: spanalot
One of my ETF investments is MDY which is the middle cap index fund, which is the class in which many of these fishwrap stocks are/were in. The chart below shows how much better MDY has done versus the lying fishwrap losers:
39
posted on
03/18/2006 10:27:26 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
To: Old_Mil
"I suspect that the internet will end up being to newspapers what the digital camera was to 35mm film."
You are probably correct. We have been two events where professional photographers used digital cameras plus our recent photos for our church directory.
40
posted on
03/18/2006 10:31:41 AM PST
by
Grampa Dave
(How long has the NY Slimes, Compost, and LA Slimes been Enroning (cooking) their books?)
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20, 21-40, 41-57 next last
Disclaimer:
Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual
posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its
management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the
exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson