Posted on 03/16/2006 11:57:00 AM PST by WatchingInAmazement
Human nature never changes...
The bit-players and tactics sometimes modernize or shift, but the basic story-line is always there.
The WoT is fundamentally no different from the Muhammadean atrocities, and subsequent Christian Crusades that have been taking place to some extent ever since Mad Mo put pen to paper.
Their goals; domination/subjugation/extermination of 'infidels', and control of the Holy Land haven't changed a bit. The weaponry is a bit more high-tech, they've gained some advantage due to the oil trade, and picked-up a few subtleties from General Mao's teachings. That's the only real difference.
Better to fight on their turf than here. Bush got that much right in his doctrine, but then proceeded to contradict himself by supporting this deal. Methinks his family's personal friendships with the Saudi and UAE royals have become a weakness in his ability to recognize a threat.
So true. And their argument is flawed even in that pitiful measure. Amazing how few can look past their fingertips when they're holding a fist-full of cash.
If the UAE is a staunch ally, I wonder how our enemies vote in the UN.
According to Rep. Louie Rep. Gohmert, Texas on Hannity stated, the UN had 79 votes last year. 62 times the UAE voted against the US. 62 TIMES. 5 times they voted in favor of the US. 10 times they abstained and were absent the others.
Not sure current economic free trade models adequately account for so-called exogenous factors. Like tort, red tape, corruption, safety regs, etc.
Man, you are goooood.
What forges alliances is loyalty. Loyalty is developed over time, and is based upon trust and several human instincts (partial list):
1) Economic Loyalty
2) Defensive Loyalty
3) Offensive Loyalty
4) Social Loyalty
5) Political Loyalty
6) Racial Loyalty (not condoning racism, just acknowledging that it does exist)
7) Religious Loyalty
8) Cultural Loyalty
9) Tribal Loyalty
UAE makes an inherently weak ally for us in the long-term. They share some short-term goals, but have endemic rifts with us on some very fundamental levels. Economic loyalty is traditionally a weak bond in time of war.
One more 'food-for-thought' tidbit...
Over 85% of muders are committed by a personal acquaintance of the victim.
Reason to lock your doors, and never go out? Nope.
Reason to be cautious about who you invite into your home? Absolutely.
Good rant. I can't stand those folks, either.
"...despite our objections, even. Sound like the actions of a nation that has the our best interests in mind?"
Yup, they are about as duplicitus as they come.
Why yes, as a matter of fact, as it is wholly-owned and controlled by the Emirate leadership. A state-owned enterprise that was more-than-willing to go along with and facilitated A.Q. Khan's nuclear proliferation logistics. They only cooperated...under point of our bayonets...in 2003 to 'bust' the Khan network. Some 'bust.' The cat was already out of the bag...the horses out of the barn, so to speak. They could afford to 'cooperate'...when it was already too late. They could afford to rat out the funny-boy in Libya. Iran was always their big hope. Iran seems to be merrily coasting on into nuking Israel before we get around to doing something about it.
With a nuclear Iran...there isn't a safe port in the world.
Also interesting how all the plans were marked up in Chinese. So precisely where is the War on Terror's follow-through with the obvious ring-leader of the Axis-of-Evil? The ultimate enabler. The one with the Implausible, Plausible Deniability. The 1.3 Billion person Gorilla in the Living Room.
Meanwhile, the most-recent dictator in charge of the UAE who just retired last month, has been busy writing "Nabati" (an Arabic-Jihadist form of poetry) that fairly clearly alludes to the frustration of a jihadist wanting to knife the world capitalists in the back, but having to bide their time, and play the dupe.
Nothing to see here, move along, move along.
Helloooooo, wake up and smell the coffee.
The Saudis already threw us out of their country. Didn't hear you RINO/NWO/Globalists screeching about your precious principles being violated then. And it is also their money primarily funding good old Al-Queda and the jihadist Maddrassas in Pakistan, churning out the jihadist foot soldiers.
And the Chicoms? Do you propose throwing them out of the exact same deals that they currently occupy?
Damn straight I do.
Wonderful post!
Pinging.
Mac Johnson might also want to consider the impact this is having on the body politic:
Yes. That very accurately encapsulates the RINO/NWO/Globalists mentality.
Their arrogant brazen effrontery and tantrums blew up in their faces, and they are still here whining. I don't think that simply telling them to "Go to your room" is enough.
Some of these guys show they needed a good paddling they evidently never got when they were younger. Hopelessly spoiled, and just plain rotten.
Great graphic!
The wonderful U.S. of A. is the only nation in the entire world that encourages its enemies to store its military assests on their national soil. Are we braindead or is their any hope left?
I am not positive but I think perhaps I have come across the solution as to why we have 'Port Lovers'. These people do not have any idea whatsoever of how to think like a terrorist. They have no idea how to destroy a shipyard or docking facilities. They have no idea what simple things can be done to bring a major city to a grinding halt. They think that our enemies only want the American dollar and not our land that is chock full of national assets.
Sorry folks, but I will never be a globalist who wants to share a meal with my enemy.
Interesting map! Frightening, but interesting.
It's bad enough having to vote for them!
Now that I have swapped over to the Constitution Party those days are gone.
Hi:
To repeat myself for the ump-teenth time, that is not what I consider "evidence" of terrorist activities.
I've pretty much dropped this debate, cuz thru several threads now your side seems to have no idea what "evidence of terrorist ties" would mean to someone like me.
The insults, scary pictures, posting to support those who are in your choir, etc, that your side considers 'debate tactics' just don't influence me, I'm sorry. I'm looking for actual facts, evidence of wrongdoing by these specific individuals. I'm looking for hard evidence, of the "he did this to them, so he might do it to us" kind of mold.
Apparently there is none. And ya'll not only don't understand why I might want it, but ya'll have no interest in even trying to understand why anyone *might* want such evidence.
So there we are. I still believe this was a knee-jerk emotional reaction, and the UAE is an ally. Ya'll still believe the UAE is an untrustworthy enemy of the US.
This thread has become repetitive, with me asking the same simple question and ya'll ignoring me and repeating the same things that weren't persuasive the first 50 times.
Until some new information becomes available, have a nice day.
We got your message: Don't confuse me with facts, my mind is made up.
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