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Fossil find prompts rethink on dinosaur feathers
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| 3/15/2006
| Patricia Reaney
Posted on 03/15/2006 12:23:34 PM PST by The_Victor
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To: Getready
> when new evidence tells you the overall theory may be
incorrect...
Let us know when such evidence comes along. So far, what this shows is that some *small* portion of the theory of evolution (specifically, the evolution of feathers) is not quite what was thought.
What you're proposing is like finding that someone who was thought to have been gassed at Auschwitz was actually shot at Treblinka, and then concluding that the Holocaust was a hoax.
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:42:21 PM PST
by
orionblamblam
(A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
To: MineralMan
Marsupial fossils are also found on Antarctica. These finds were predicted before they were made, because they fit neatly with continental drift theory. Early marsupials were around when Australia and Antarctica were part of the same land mass.
Chalk up another superb prediction for evolution, utterly inexplicable by any creationist model other than "God did it that way to fool scientists into thinking that common descent is true".
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:42:33 PM PST
by
Thatcherite
(I'm Pat Henry, I'm the real Pat Henry, All the other Pat Henry's are just imitators...)
To: MineralMan
The Opossum is about the only marsupial anywhere outside of Australia. There are some in South America but don't ask me to name them. From the Gondwonaland days.
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:43:11 PM PST
by
VadeRetro
(I have the updated "Your brain on creationism" on my homepage.)
To: PatrickHenry
To: calex59
So far, and this is documented, no feathers have been found on any dino fossils, regardless of the claims. They have all been proven to be false and not feathers. Documented where? The only fake I'm aware of is the Chinese thing the National Geographic published before peer-review.
To: vpintheak
Yep, I still can't figure out why humans don't have nice full coats of body hair We evolved to be really good long-distance runners. One of the adaptations that helps us in this regard is less thick body-hair. We have heat regulation options that are available to few other animals.
That is why, over a long distance, there are few, if any animals, that can keep up with humans.
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:48:18 PM PST
by
Potowmack
("Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government")
To: ClearCase_guy
Humans may evolve organs that allow us to breathe liquid gold. But these organs may eventually disappear from the human race, because they are not needed. Is that how evolution works?
Pretty much. ET is just a bunch of goofballs sitting around telling each other stories. They get grants to do it.
To: MineralMan
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:49:32 PM PST
by
gomaaa
To: gomaaa
Yeah, that's cool. Marsupials are fascinating to study, and Australia is a great place. I like the monotremes even more, though. They are wonderful critters. The echidna is my favorite, although the platypus comes in a close second. It's so bizarre that it's hard to even place it in the class of mammals.
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:51:58 PM PST
by
MineralMan
(godless atheist)
To: The_Victor
Many similar traits in distinctly different lineage of species.Yes. Like eyeballs or wings.
To: vpintheak
I still can't figure out why humans don't have nice full coats of body hair Maybe our intelligent designer was not so intelligent after all? How did he miss that one?
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:55:52 PM PST
by
Bingo Jerry
(Bing-freaking-go!)
To: The_Victor
Just makes me wish I could see a picture of it.
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posted on
03/15/2006 1:56:52 PM PST
by
spinestein
(The network news is to journalism what McDonald's is to food.)
To: calex59
So far, and this is documented, no feathers have been found on any dino fossils, regardless of the claims Who told you that? Actually, fossilized dinosaur feathers have been found in Liaoning, China.
They are like Dems, they will believe what they want and to hell with the trurh, the feather hoax continues. I am NOT a christian, NOT a creationist or IDer, just a guy who wants the truth to be told. If evolution is real, then their is no need for fakes and false claims, although they continue unabated and with no shame from the evos!
Why does that one section of Biology split from the others and the rest of science and suddenly form an airtight wall of secrecy in their bitter struggle to misinform the people of the world, all the while knowing for sure they are wrong, but persevering anyway? Money? Love? The thrill of hoaxery? The lifetime DVDs?
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posted on
03/15/2006 2:26:20 PM PST
by
Bingo Jerry
(Bing-freaking-go!)
To: orionblamblam
Afraid there are many hummers.
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posted on
03/15/2006 2:26:59 PM PST
by
stanz
(Those who don't believe in evolution should go jump off the flat edge of the Earth.)
To: Bingo Jerry
It's the chicks, man. They just dig a good hoaxer.
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posted on
03/15/2006 2:32:31 PM PST
by
Junior
(Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
To: MineralMan
They're even wierder than I thought! I knew about the pouches, but not the rest of it!
From Wikipedia:
Marsupials are mammals in which the female typically has a pouch (called the marsupium, from which the name 'Marsupial' derives) in which it rears its young through early infancy. They differ from placental mammals (Placentalia) in their reproductive traits. The female has two vaginas, both of which open externally through one orifice but lead to different compartments within the uterus. Males usually have a two-pronged penis which corresponds to the females' two vaginas. The penis only passes sperm. Marsupials have a cloaca [1] [2] that is connected to a urogenital sac in both sexes. Waste is stored there before expulsion. The pregnant female develops a kind of yolk sack in her womb which delivers nutrients to the embryo. The embryo is born at a very early stage of development (at about 4-5 weeks), upon which it crawls up its mother's belly and attaches itself to a nipple. It remains attached to the nipple for a number of weeks. The offspring later passes through a stage where it temporarily leaves the pouch, returning for warmth and nourishment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsupials
It's like having an alien life form in your own backyard!
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posted on
03/15/2006 2:43:15 PM PST
by
gomaaa
To: Getready
"so when new evidence tells you the overall theory may be
incorrect, you just make the theory more complicated to explain all the variations?"
Absolutely nothing in this find says that the ToE is wrong in any way. All it does is possibly change what was thought about a particular lineage. It's a taxonomic/paleontological footnote.
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posted on
03/15/2006 2:58:42 PM PST
by
CarolinaGuitarman
("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
To: Getready; Quark2005
so when new evidence tells you the overall theory may be incorrect, you just make the theory more complicated to explain all the variations?
One of the most beutiful, succesful, and most thoroughly verified theories in Physics is Electromagnetism. The entire theory can be expressed in four short equations called "Maxwell's Equations".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations#Summary_of_the_equations
Despite the simplicity of the formulas, any physics student who has studied the APPLICATION of the field in any detail could probably relate some tales of horror about hours spent banging one's head with a copy of "Classical Electrodyamics" by John David Jackson. The devil, as they say, is in the details. Part of the beauty of Evolution is its simplicity. Through natural selection, a VERY simple concept, the entire field of biology can be illuminated. The details, however, can sometimes make one want to bang one's head with a copy of "The Origin of Species".
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posted on
03/15/2006 3:34:57 PM PST
by
gomaaa
To: ClearCase_guy
Any natualist worth his salt can do that today with all sorts of structural features..take a skull
Eyes to the front...good for the hunt.
or a footprint:
Serious claws catch meat for the maws.
To: vpintheak
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