Terri's Day challenges the nation to unify

Renew America ^ | March 13, 2006 | Kevin Fobbs

[pickyourpoison]

After hearing about his book, the airplane incident and talking mentally to a dying person nothing surprises me about Felos. Taping a dying person would be right down his alley.

[BykrBayb]

The Nazis had a panel of three doctors when selecting patients for euthanasia. How many doctors does Texas require?

[Wampus SC]

I don't give a Flying Freep who says what about Tom Cruise. The boy brings it on himself.

"But in this case, the cannibalism concerned Tom Cruise, not Terri, and it wasn't strictly cannibalism"

Of course it was. Here are some other examples that were really about Tom Cruise and placenta eating, and not really about cannibalism:

• "Did you hear about the cannibal who passed his grandmother in the woods?"
  http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1596123/posts?page=2174#2174
  
  
• http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1596123/posts?page=2177#2177
  "Two cannibals were eating a clown. One said to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"
  One cannibal says, "I really hate my sister." Replies the other, "Well, just eat the noodles."
  When cannibals have a wedding, they toast the bride and groom."

See there? They really were about Tom Cruise and not really about cannibalism. Right? Weren't they?

No apology needed, it was just joking around. I'm not exactly offended by it. It was funny. Ha ha. I understand the humor, why it's funny, and what it is about this that makes it funny. I understand what part it is of some human's psyche that finds killing, dismembering and eating your fellow human beings to be one of the most hilarious things known to man. I simply want to register my objection and let it go at that.

My objection obviously arises from a serious character defect I have. The character defect that makes me want to oppose torture in all its manifestations. Whether it's doing it, ordering it, dictatorially issuing signing statements claiming you're exempt from laws against it, or condoning any of the previous by silence. Or getting your jollies from it.

[B-b-b-but... k-k-killing, dismembering and eating your fellow human beings isn't strictly torture in either the physical or psychological sense!!!! Yeah, right.]

[Wampus SC]

Not close. Added a while back. Yeah, that must have been what my post was really about...

[Wampus SC]

"Thank you. You conspire. I'm going to go have a beer."

Anytime. <twilight zone music> I conspire? -- interesting, in what way am I conspiring?</twilight zone music> Good idea - when refutation thru irrelevance fails, beer succeeds.

[Wampus SC]

Somehow I knew that you would say you were in intel. Don't know how, but there it is.

OK. let's look at this. Conspirators for good causes, like military intelligence, keep their secrets because of honor. Or, fear of criminal penalties if they don't. Yep, I'll go with that. But conspirators for evil causes blab all the time, because they're bad people.

I don't know about the latter. If what they did was illegal, they might also keep their secrets from fear of criminal penalties if those secrets were divulged. But that just may be BS, and all the mentioned "irregular" goings-on involving Mikey, Greer, guardians ad litem, the hospice et. al. may just be a continuous, years-long stream of random coincidences.... "The law of Terri" may just be a manifestation of random coincidence too... Right?

"If there was such a group, I'd bet on the wall of silence cracking."

Funny thing about those walls of silence. When one hasn't cracked - yet - it tells us nothing. When it hasn't cracked it doesn't prove a conspiracy exists. Nor does it prove one doesn't.

[8mmMauser]

Andrea' Fight update...

Excerpt from a note from Lanore this am ....

Mary,

They have decided not to do gallbladder surgery on Andrea, but instead are inserting
a drain tube into her gallbladder--much safer and hopefully will accomplish the same
end. She is having that done as I type so I'm going to run back up there now. 

Thank you so much for all you have done to help gather support for my sister. We
have won the battle with the hospital because of people like you that took the time
and effort to do something. Beyond my own family, there is really so much love in
the family of humanity where God's Grace abounds. There is much more healing taking
place in this situation than people know. 

Thank you so much and please keep Andrea in your prayers--she still has a long way
to go.

Lanore Dixon 

In Christ,
Mary Gesinski, Editor
Olive Branch Press, Inc.
PO Box 401107
Redford, MI 48240
editor@olivebranchpress.com
www.olivebranchpress.com

IN MEMORY 
Theresa Marie Schindler-Schiavo (1963-2005)

"Fresh in my mind now is how they tortured her to death, how terrified she looked
prior to her death. . . . That will be an image that stays with me and my family the
rest of our lives," Bobby Schindler 

And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye
have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. Mt
25:40


"Where there is life, there is hope" - Theresa Marie Schindler (1963-2005)

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(this includes Ohioan from Florida's ping list, update to May 1.)



Terri on the road to recovery before the second stage began.

[8mmMauser]

Power of the Internet! Reminder of where it started for us, on #Post 2,219.

IMHO this is what News Activism is all about.

From North Country Gazette...

HOUSTON---"The doctors didn't underestimate our family. They underestimated the power of the internet".

Melanie Childers and Lanore Dixon, sisters of Andrea Clark, expressed their appreciation to the people who helped save Andrea's life after the ethics committee of St. Luke's Episcopal Hospital in Houston, Texas, had voted to end her life support on Sunday.

"Without the Internet and the pro-life movement, our sister wouldn't be alive today", Dixon said Wednesday.

Power Of The Internet Saves Andrea Clark

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[8mmMauser]

North Country Gazette continues...

For two weeks I have carried responsibility in the legal realm for the lives of two women whom attending physicians and ethics committees have decided should not receive life-sustaining treatment. This has been a heavy burden--although I cannot compare my ordeal to that of the families and patients.

I filed papers with the court in one case (Yoland Vo) and got close to doing that in the other case (Andrea Clark). In one, a new attending physician has assumed care. In the other, the hospital is, so far, cooperating with grace and compassion to find alternatives.

I cannot express the gratitude that I feel for the bloggers, journalists, radio talk hosts who have informed the public about these cases, and the readers and listeners who have clearly expressed to the hospitals, physicians and bioethicists who support denying people autonomy in medical decisions by replacing the desires of patients and families with subjective judgments about "quality of life", that such a position is not acceptable.

OpEd - Texas Futile Care Law Doesn't Work By Jerri Ward, J.D.

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[8mmMauser]

Our fair and balancing judge again...

I can only surmise judges now no longer need to judge but can openly side with their pals with no pretense of fairness these days. Is he a model for what America is willing to accept as a judge?

PENSACOLA----While Pinellas County probate court judge George W. Greer continues his traveling road show in support of the euthanasia movement, Bobby Schindler, brother of the late Terri Schindler Schiavo, has called upon the Florida Judicial Qualifications Commission "to review Greer's activities, both within and outside the State of Florida for the sake of other vulnerable persons that may have to appear before him".

Greer is scheduled to appear Thursday before 200 attorneys of the Escambia/Santa Rose Bar Association in Pensacola as part of the group's observance of Law Week.

Judge Greer Continues Speaking Tour For Euthanasia

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[8mmMauser]

Here is the balance!

God bless Bobby Schindler.

I am here today at the University of Pennsylvania to speak out against the participation of Pinellas County probate court Judge George Greer in the University's so-called Bioethics symposium. Our family publicly stated for years that Judge Greer has a pro-euthanasia, pro-death bias, which tempered his decisions in my sister's case and caused him to unethically, immorally and illegally ordered her to die.

Judge George Greer's pro-euthanasia bias shows

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[8mmMauser]

Anyone agree with this professor and her modern christianity view of the plight of Terri? Perhaps Lysaught begets Lie found...

A professor and author said Tuesday the Christian reaction to the death of Terri Schiavo was not represented by the media.

M. Therese Lysaught, an associate professor of religious studies at the University of Dayton, presented her view as the 2006 Dr. Edward D. Simmons Lecture on Society and Human Values in the Varsity Theatre.

Lysaught began her lecture by listing the facts of Schiavo's medical and legal cases. In 1990 Schiavo, then 26, collapsed from respiratory and cardiac arrest and suffered severe brain damage. Doctors declared Schiavo to be in a persistent vegetative state, a condition marked by wakefulness without detectable awareness, three years later.

Lysaught: Legal battle did not represent Christian ethics

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Terri on the road to recovery before the second stage began.

[8mmMauser]

Just a reminder and for remembering in prayers...

A Note from Pamela

Scott sang ~(whispering), Happy Birthday to me today - along with friends. You could actually hear his deep voice come thru at times!  It was pretty exciting! He had a big smile on his face afterwards. Last year at this time he was in Brooks Rehab... his speech therapist sang the words and Scott mouthed them ~ He has come a long way!!  We are all so proud of him.  

The other evening when he was ready for bed for the night, I set his TV timer for an hour and told him I would be back, as usual, in two hours to turn him.. he looked at me and said `I'll be here..', then grinned!  He put a smile on my face then!     

Scott's Fight

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[8mmMauser]

Thanks to TheSarce...

Ping to a fascinating thread - Mark Steyn account of the Canadian donut icon, Tim Horton. I know nobody will believe this but the Tim Horton donut craze started by a retired cop, a mountie, near Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia, a donut shop for cops. Anyway....

Mark Steyn: Worshipping at the church of Tim Hortons (social suicide in Canada, Britain and Europe)

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[8mmMauser]

Ping to wagglebee's thread on Andrea's Fight...

Success in Fight to Save Andrea Clark: St. Luke’s Hospital Backs Down

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[T'wit]

I chewed on the military intel question a good while yesterday. Don't think it's worth pursuing here -- it's way off subject for a Terri thread. But we might want to discuss it some other time.

>> If what they did was illegal, they might also keep their secrets from fear of criminal penalties if those secrets were divulged.

Certainly. On the flip side, there are immunities that go with turning state's evidence against the others, collecting a reward, etc. Suffice to say, if you're part of a criminal conspiracy, you're always looking over your shoulder.

[8mmMauser]

Worldwide reach of the death culture ping to wagglebee's thread.

UK Man Goes to European Court Asking that He not be Starved to Death in Hospital

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[8mmMauser]

When can we say this guy has crossed the line? June Maxam tells it like it is...

Highly recommend reading this:

Pinellas County probate court judge George W. Greer has crossed the line.

COMMENTARY - Schiavo Judge Commits Judicial Foul

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[T'wit]

Just a pleasantry to sign off the subject since I had nothing to add :-)

I don't actually drink beer. Neither do I accuse you of conspiring, though you certainly have my permission to conspire, should you wish to. I believe that every American citizen -- no illegal aliens, please -- has a right to conspire and lob overripe vegetables at politicians and, like, stuff like that.

[floriduh voter]

the mother of t c's spawn has been fashioned into someone else, her name altered and apparently, a new personality. I believe her parents sold her and then came to Florida to vacation.

poor kate. lovely to look at, ez to brainwash.