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Terri's Day challenges the nation to unify
Renew America ^ | March 13, 2006 | Kevin Fobbs

Posted on 03/14/2006 11:28:51 AM PST by KevinNuPac

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To: TheSarce
Michael just said he took Terri for an EEG and it was "completely flat" and the doctor asked him why he was "letting Terri live" since "she died four years ago."

That was his version of a conversation he had with a Dr. Harrison in the 1993 guardianship hearings. I can't find where they questioned Harrison about it. It could be just a Mickey cat story, but it's in the record.

I didn't include that in my post below because of length, but what I thought was interesting was that it appears that Terri had not seen a neurologist since Dr. Yingling (who turns out not to be a medical doctor at all) until one day before Michael's court testimony! I can only imagine what a little police interrogation might lead to with this character.

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SHEEHAN: Okay. How often does Doctor Harrison see her, do you know.
SCHIAVO: He's seen her---

NILSSON: You're talking right now, as we sit?

SHEEHAN: Yeah. I mean does he see her on a regular basis now?
SCHIAVO: No.

SHEEHAN: When was the last time he saw her?
SCHIAVO: Yesterday.

SHEEHAN: When was the last time before that?
SCHIAVO: She didn't.

SHEEHAN: So Doctor Harrison saw her for the first time yesterday?
SCHIAVO: Yes, on the advice of Doctor Lyles to go see her or him.

SHEEHAN: Okay. When was the last time Terri had seen a neurologist?
SCHIAVO: I'd have to look up some records. I don't remember.

SHEEHAN: Has it been years?
SCHIAVO: No, I don't think it's been years.

SHEEHAN: Has a neurologist seen her since Doctor Yingling saw her?( April 1991)
SCHIAVO: I don't recall.

www.northcountrygazette.org/articles/102905SchiavoImplant.html

1,261 posted on 03/30/2006 1:28:31 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Ohioan from Florida
Facts are not very important to those types. Words are but tools for effect. Accuracy and meaning are irrelevant, only the effect they have on the recipient.

Catholics I admire include Brother Paul O'Donnell and Brother Hilary, the Franciscan monks from Minnesota who stood by Terri and her family. A mild mannered man, Brother Paul spoke as if the Holy Ghost were speaking through him when he defended Terri.

Here is something else from Minnesota, the state where I was born.

A bill encouraging Minnesotans to make their long-term and end-of-life care wishes known continued to pass legislative hurdles this week.

The Minnesota House Civil Law Committee voted March 27 in favor of the “Starvation and Dehydration of Persons with Disabilities Prevention Act.”

Bill covers food and water issues for those in long-term care or ending life

Minnesota bishops support proposal

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1,262 posted on 03/30/2006 1:47:29 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: TheSarce
>> Michael just said he took Terri for an EEG and it was "completely flat"

She was sleeping. How did the next one turn out?

Btw, note what the alleged doctor allegedly said. "She died four years ago." That would put this EEG in 1994 -- at least a year after Michael withdrew all therapy and put a DNR on Terri's charts. So, why were they allegedly doing a diagnostic test in 1994?

Also btw, the term "flat-line" is propagandistic. People hear it and think of heart monitors, especially in dramatic TV scenes. It symbolizes death, or at least defibrillation. The beeping stops, the line goes flat and -- oh my Hubbard!! -- the patient's heart has stopped. He's dead, he's dying, quick, give him a Heimlich maneuver!!

Too bad we don't have EMGs -- electromorality graphs. Put little wires on your conscience. Michael wouldn't even flat-line. His graph would point straight down.

1,263 posted on 03/30/2006 1:49:21 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: bjs1779; All
Thanks for the reminder. I am reposting for emphasis.

I wish some courageous investigators really interested in justice would take a hard look at the time when Dr. Yoshio Hosobuchi was in the picture, per your link. I keep posting the picture of Terri because she was on her way to substantial recovery before they started experimenting with her brain.

This was taken a couple years or so after the incident and as her many broken bones were healing, and before Mikey cashed in on the malpractice lottery.

Schiavo Implant Doctor Reprimanded For Misconduct

1,264 posted on 03/30/2006 1:59:30 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit

There you go, using Hubbard in vain. Can felos be used as a verb, as in "The serial killer felosed another victim>"?


1,265 posted on 03/30/2006 2:02:56 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter

Well I've been through the last couple days from hell. And I have to say I think I felt a small fraction of what Terri was going through when she died!

I got dehydrated and I believe from the damned thyroid medicine I'm taking. I feel awful! I have no idea how it happend but I do know that the last couple of days my muscles in my body were tight, week, and I was shaking! I had body tremors, pain throughout my body everywhere. I couldn't use any of my muscles it was so bad! I was thirsty, had dry mouth, and my eyes were sunken in. I go to the doctor and find out I'm dehydrated and I starte drinking gatorade quickly and lots of it. I feel lots better, cept a bad headache now! But WOW, is all I can say! Dehydration feels awful and nothing to mess with. Terri had to be in severe pain dying is all i can say. Dehydration is TERRIBLE!


1,266 posted on 03/30/2006 2:16:57 PM PST by Halls (One Proud Texas Momma!!)
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To: Halls

Can you imagine then, Terri with supposed weak heart went thirteen days without a drop to touch her lips? Few of the strongest could go that long and with suffering we can hardly imagine.

Dehydration can sneak up as you found out. It would happen to our son sometimes. He couldn't talk and we wouldn't always realize it at first until some early symptoms. Then we would learn to pinch gently some loose skin on his arm. If it snapped back, we would not worry, but if it took time to return, we knew he needed water right away.

Thirteen days...it still boggles the mind.


1,267 posted on 03/30/2006 3:56:50 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: T'wit
So, why were they allegedly doing a diagnostic test in 1994?

Feb. 1990 - Nov. 1993. Close enough as far as 4 years go. If I were diabolical and facing a guardianship hearing, and the risk of losing all that money, I would want to make it look good too.

1,268 posted on 03/30/2006 4:04:09 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser

http://www.sptimes.com/2005/03/24/Floridian/15_years_ago__Terri_S.shtml


1,269 posted on 03/30/2006 4:07:52 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

Interesting article.

Seems Michael sued Prudential Insurance, the company Terri worked for before her injury, at least two times. Those suits are in additional to the suits against Terri's doctors. I wonder how much money he actually gained from all the different lawsuits.

Terri's first GAL said there was a conflict of interest concerning Michael's guardianship of Terri and his desire to eliminate her. I think his name was Pierce. He said MS would inherit Terri's money by killing her. Pierce was right about the conflict of interest. Terri probably had a life insurance policy with Prudential too. Felos had Pierce removed as Terri's GAL.

Other than Pierce, the only guardian who would have put Terri's interests first would have been her real family, the Schindlers. Any other guardian appointed by Greer, most likely would have been a robot for Felos and his new age death cult, since Felos seemed to control the court. The Schindlers fought so hard to save Terri, but they were out numbered by the ghouls and as Mr Schindler says - they were blindsided.

Even though it's been a year since all this happened, I still can't believe it was not stopped. Apparently there are NO WHITE ROSES in power in America. How very sad.


1,270 posted on 03/30/2006 5:12:52 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: bjs1779

Oops - I forget this from the article:

""ST. PETERSBURG BEACH - Mike Schiavo vividly remembers the morning of Feb. 25. Usually a late sleeper, Schiavo awakened suddenly about 5 a.m. and started to get out of bed.

"For some strange reason that day, I was just taking the covers off, and then she hit the floor," he said.""

Has anyone else ever, ever, ever heard the *I WAS JUST TAKING THE COVERS OFF, AND THEN SHE HIT THE FLOOR*?????????????????????

What the heck is that all about????????


1,271 posted on 03/30/2006 5:15:01 PM PST by Pepper777
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To: All; 8mmMauser

"So powerful were the tender cruelties of the murderers that not a drop of liquid could touch Terri's lips. Monsignor was blocked from even placing a drop of wine from Communion on her lips."

This is demonic!!

It seems that I remember - maybe a week or so before Terri's passing, she was allowed Holy Communion on one day, and she had renewed energy that day, and when her friends came, and talked about how they would go dancing, Terri raised her hands, as to demonstrate/gesture dancing. I wish I saved the link where I read this in my personal files.

Does anyone else remember this?


1,272 posted on 03/30/2006 5:41:50 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: Pepper777
. Apparently there are NO WHITE ROSES in power in America. How very sad.

None whats so ever. The book of Revelations is getting closer all the time.

1,273 posted on 03/30/2006 5:45:52 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: syriacus
I wonder if Nancy's father saw the same look on Nancy's face.

I wonder if he ever had a moment after that when he didn't see it. That's a memory that could drive anyone to suicide.

1,274 posted on 03/30/2006 5:52:35 PM PST by BykrBayb ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: Pepper777
Pierce was right about the conflict of interest. Terri probably had a life insurance policy with Prudential too. Felos had Pierce removed as Terri's GAL.

That's right, and they had Wolfson removed too, for the audacity of suggesting that Terri should be given another swallowing test. Premeditated it was.

1,275 posted on 03/30/2006 5:52:49 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: BykrBayb

Did you ever learn what his final note said?


1,276 posted on 03/30/2006 5:55:02 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779
>> "For some strange reason that day, I was just taking the covers off, and then she hit the floor," he said.

So that's what happened! He asphyxiated her with the covers!

1,277 posted on 03/30/2006 6:14:42 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: Pepper777

Spelling may have been Pearse, if anybody wants to try a search.


1,278 posted on 03/30/2006 6:17:48 PM PST by T'wit (Our top bioethicists: 5) Cranford, 4) John Wayne Gacy, 3) Kevorkian, 2) Bundy, 1) Margaret Sanger.)
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To: T'wit
So that's what happened! He asphyxiated her with the covers!

Haul him in for questioning I say.

1,279 posted on 03/30/2006 6:20:25 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: Pepper777
Apparently there are NO WHITE ROSES in power in America. How very sad.

The leaders didn't show up a year ago.

But Sophie of the White Rose died too as did her compatriots, and the leaders then failed too, but the White Rose continued as it does today.

I cannot take credit for any of the discovery of this symbol, but shamelessly plagiarize our own Terri compatriots like BykrBayb, T'wit, bjs1779 and others more knowledgeable.

The White Rose

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1,280 posted on 03/30/2006 6:33:08 PM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam Tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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