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[UK] Police get 'licence to kill' without questions (Follow Israel's example says Liberty!)
The Sunday Times (UK) ^ | March 12, 2006 | David Leppard

Posted on 03/12/2006 6:06:48 AM PST by Hannah Senesh

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1 posted on 03/12/2006 6:06:54 AM PST by Hannah Senesh
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2 posted on 03/12/2006 6:11:11 AM PST by SJackson (There is but one language which can be held to these people, and this is terror, William Eaton)
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To: Hannah Senesh

In the era of suicide bombers, there is no alternative to a shoot-to-kill policy.


3 posted on 03/12/2006 6:38:04 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Hannah Senesh

Muslim 'brown shirts' = planned death of republics

imo


4 posted on 03/12/2006 6:45:00 AM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister..but we knew just what to do...we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite
In the era of suicide bombers, there is no alternative to a shoot-to-kill policy.

I suspect that you are a suicide bomber. Who should I give your name to?

5 posted on 03/12/2006 7:37:13 AM PST by opinionator
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To: Hannah Senesh

A decade ago, I was upset that Hong Kong was being handed over to a totalitarian police state. Turns out, they were lucky.


6 posted on 03/12/2006 7:39:24 AM PST by IRememberElian
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To: opinionator

Not a valid argument to get hypothetical.

If someone is acting suspiciously, I don't see any alternative.


7 posted on 03/12/2006 8:13:18 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: opinionator

Show your hands when asked to and don't run when law enforcement commands you to halt.

The poster you criticize is correct.

Stop "Opinionating" and listen to individuals like he and soon your sign-in will be "Factinator."


8 posted on 03/12/2006 8:14:43 AM PST by TFMcGuire
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To: IRememberElian

So, you are comparing a democracy like Britain to dictatorship like China?


9 posted on 03/12/2006 8:15:02 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: TFMcGuire
Show your hands when asked to and don't run when law enforcement commands you to halt.

Ooops!! I forgot that bit! Thanks!

10 posted on 03/12/2006 8:16:26 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: IRememberElian

Giving the teeth back to our toothless old watchdog is not PC but it is a return to historical understanding of authority.

Do you wish Western Europe and the U.S. to survive or do you wish to drown our many nations in PC impotence.

Show your hands when asked to and don't run from law enforcement when they order you to stop.

We have become a nation of cowards. I doubt wheter the West has the moral courage to return to our foundational principles.

We will die because we have neither the will nor courage to keep the barbarians outside the gates.


11 posted on 03/12/2006 8:21:26 AM PST by TFMcGuire
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Irish Thatcherite, eh?

You give me reason to hope for our little Island.

May you have many Children! :)

TMc.


12 posted on 03/12/2006 8:25:22 AM PST by TFMcGuire
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

That's exactly what I'm doing. They're both police states, but China is less efficient and getting better. The Brits are more oppressive every day.


13 posted on 03/12/2006 8:26:14 AM PST by IRememberElian
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To: TFMcGuire

There are certain people here on FR with outdated veiws of Ireland, they don't like my screenname LOL!!

I think that history will record that Thatcher was better for Ireland than Tony Blair.


14 posted on 03/12/2006 8:33:59 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: IRememberElian

Well, ok, I don't like the Big Brother mentality of Blair, it's just I don't like a Western country being compared to China.


15 posted on 03/12/2006 8:36:05 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Irish_Thatcherite

Wouldn't the thought of deporting all muslims back to their own countries work well? It would be a bit expensive upfront, however, since their perverted religious beliefs don't really allow assimilation into Western style civilization, I don't think the West has much of a choice.

Given they believe anyone who is not a muslim (infidel) is to be conquered, converted or killed, what choice do we have in the long run? Given the West consists primarily of democracies or republics based on a system of Judeo-Christian laws, from what I understand during times of war, you change the laws, treat them as if they were Stalinists or Nazis, and deport them. All of them. Then you wouldn't have that growing terrorist element to deal with going forward. The world hates us now, they'll hate us more as a result, and probably throw economic blockades at us that only hurt them as well. Too bad. We'll get through it.

The assumption that there are peaceful muslims, well, they don't police or expose their own (given they cannot turn over a superior muslim to an inferior infidel), and are imtimated or threatened with death from their xenophobic mullahs if they stray from the zombie herd, so what are we in the West to do, pray tell (to God, not Allah), if we want to maintain Western societies, when elements of our destruction are being sown as we speak? Am I wrong?

Somebody tell me that I am not seeing this issue for what it truly is? The history of Islam is that of war against anyone and everyone who is not, correct? This is basic tenents of their twisted relgious beliefs, and unless there is a reformation of sorts, it won't change...so what alternative is there? I don't see any other option than to keep them at bay, seclude them in their own places of origin or destroy them. Do you?


16 posted on 03/12/2006 8:54:06 AM PST by john drake (roman military maxim: "oderint dum metuant, i.e., let them hate, as long as they fear")
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To: john drake

That's not a bad idea!!


17 posted on 03/12/2006 8:55:59 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: Hannah Senesh

"(Follow Israel's example says Liberty!)"

That is NOT Israel's policy and has been denied by Israel. That lie was another British SMEAR of the Israelis.

There are no examples of Israelis deliberately shooting unarmed innocents in the head multiple times as the person lay prostrate on the ground.

There are plenty of examples of incredibly brave Israeli private security guards and police giving their lives as they tackle suicide bombers to spare civilian casualties.


18 posted on 03/12/2006 10:57:01 AM PST by dervish ("And what are we becoming? The civilization of melted butter?")
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To: Hannah Senesh
Officers are told to look for people who may be sweating or look “recently clean shaven (with) short hair”.

I guess I better not go to England on a hot day, I might get shot.

19 posted on 03/12/2006 10:58:14 AM PST by Looking4Truth (We in the U.S. know the rest of the world is nearly useless and we're sick of carrying their asses!)
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hell weve had that in america for a few decades they dont have to say anything other then "s**t happens deal with it" just as long as it was on a drug raid when they blow innocent people away they will never face charges even if the people they murder dont have anythingto do with drugs.

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20 posted on 03/12/2006 11:20:36 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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