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FOX says Milosevic is dead....

Posted on 03/11/2006 4:07:10 AM PST by jmq

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To: Al Simmons
The fact that the Albanians were terrorizing Serbs for decades and that they are the hub of organized crime in Europe does not change the fact that Slobo was a communists who destroyed his country for his own personal gain.

I agree.

and?

481 posted on 03/12/2006 9:34:45 AM PST by Proctor (http://www.historyofjihad.org)
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit; A. Pole; Incorrigible
I somehow can't picture Serbs sitting back and watching Croats and Muslims testifying in a Serbian court against Serbia's war president.

Of course they could - he was out of power and he may have had Serbs killed for political reasons. Saddam is not being tried for gassing the Kurds or Iranians is he? He is being charged by his own countrymen for the murder of innocent Iraqis killed in retaliation for a failed coup attempt.

What the international community wanted (as the international community was composed of Third Way leftists in the 90s and that is the model the UN Court follows) was a show trial to push an agenda.

The Serbs were to be the scape goat people to be sacrificed for this new world court. This is old fashioned communist show trial these third way western leftists adopted for the new era. First is to demonize a people then have them humiliated in front of the court with the outcome not being justice but the accused admitting they are wrong and evil and being broken for all to see making a confession of their wrongs. Orwell did not invent '1984' out of thin air - he based it on Stalin's USSR.

This Milosevic, as amoral a man as he may have been (maybe you have to be to rule in that part of the world) did not do. This frustrated the UN court and defeated it.

It was never about the verdict because that was predetermined.

It is a hard thing to defend a man like Milosevic against teh UN court but of the two the concept of a UN court as all kangaroo political courts is more evil than people claimed Milosevic ever was.

484 posted on 03/12/2006 9:46:23 AM PST by Proctor (http://www.historyofjihad.org)
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit
That leaves we wondering what Bosnia my father used to visit (until early 1991). He says it was totally different.

Are you a Bosnians Muslim?

485 posted on 03/12/2006 9:49:31 AM PST by A. Pole ("If the state were something good then Gypsies(Roma) probably would have it.")
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit; A. Pole
http://www.religioustolerance.org/isl_adul.htm

Some versions of Sharia law require that married or divorce persons found guilty of Zina (adultery) be executed by stoning. Countries which are predominately Muslim or which have a large minority of Muslims vary greatly in their treatment of people found guilty of this crime. According to Amnesty International:

* Albania and Bosnia still retain the death penalty on the books, but do not perform it in practice.

* Other countries with a large Muslim population still practice the death penalty for various crimes. Some include blasphemy and adultery. Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, the Sudan, and some of the northern states of Nigeria practice a very strict form of Sharia law. So do the states controlled by the Parti Islam SeMalaysia (PAS) party in Malaysia. 1

Izetbegovic, the war time president of Muslim Bosnia was a practicing Wahabist - I bet you did not know he had 2 wives either?

His party was a minority party but so were the Nazis in Germany. The minority party in power in Bosnia was Islamist. If you deny that you are either ignorant or a liar.

486 posted on 03/12/2006 9:50:43 AM PST by Proctor (http://www.historyofjihad.org)
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To: Proctor
The Serbs were to be the scape goat people to be sacrificed for this new world court. This is old fashioned communist show trial these third way western leftists adopted for the new era. First is to demonize a people then have them humiliated in front of the court with the outcome not being justice but the accused admitting they are wrong and evil and being broken for all to see making a confession of their wrongs. Orwell did not invent '1984' out of thin air - he based it on Stalin's USSR.

This is not finished. Serbs will have to accept the responsibility of the death of 200 000 of Bosnian Muslims, 100 000 of Croatians and 200 000 of Muslim Albanians. They will have to submit to the perpetual EU/NATO occupation.

As Orwell said - the Inner Party will not be satisfied until you admit that 2 and 2 equals 5 and until you learn to love Big Brother. Slobo plays the role Emmanuel Goldstein.

489 posted on 03/12/2006 10:02:34 AM PST by A. Pole ("If the state were something good then Gypsies(Roma) probably would have it.")
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit; A. Pole
In other words - if I was a Christian or non Muslim in Bosnia I have the sword of Sharia dangling over my head.

To claim that the Islamists in Bosnia are not in power is a lie.

They are imposing sharia in little bits over time. The sharia imposed death penalty for adultery is on the books in Bosnia.

I could not live uner that system and I would take up arms to kill all those that would impose such a system.

490 posted on 03/12/2006 10:15:58 AM PST by Proctor (http://www.historyofjihad.org)
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To: A. Pole; M. Espinola
As Orwell said - the Inner Party will not be satisfied until you admit that 2 and 2 equals 5 and until you learn to love Big Brother. Slobo plays the role Emmanuel Goldstein.

We are almost there.

We have so called anti communist types that approach me here but are in fact pimping for the UN court.

M. Espinola is one such useful idiot - they other was that westvirginia guy whose full freeper name I can't remember but claimed in his tagline the UN was the root of all evil yet he is cheering what the UN Court has done.

A.Pole are you a Catholic? I sense from your posts classic Christian civilisation doctrine as your guiding principle.

491 posted on 03/12/2006 10:20:41 AM PST by Proctor (http://www.historyofjihad.org)
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To: Proctor; Al Simmons; A. Pole

I agree, Proctor. The negotiated settlement would, perhaps, have preserved a bridge or two over the Danube, and the Chinese would not have to remodel the embassy, but in addition to the festering wound of Kosovo, the entire Serbia would have been under the Brussel's boot.

With Slobo's defiance, the "court" in the Hague is permanently discredited and the Serb nation has grown a spine.


492 posted on 03/12/2006 10:41:37 AM PST by annalex
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit
You forget that Slobo was in a Serbian jail and being prosecuted for a variety of crimes for a little while before being handed over.

You apparently aren't aware of what he did INSIDE Serbia - massive graft, corruption, political assassinations, street violence against protesters, faked election results.

If the Hague had never asked for him, he would have spent the rest of his life in a Serbian jail cell.

493 posted on 03/12/2006 10:43:30 AM PST by Al Simmons ("Only those are fit to live who do not fear to die" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit

They were not radical muslims in peacetime.
In war they were worst than Iraqis. You see, Arabs and Persians have their milleniums of culture, their literature, science...

Bosnian muslims are just Serbs and Croates forcefuly turned into muslems by 500 yera Turkish rule.

Muslims in bosnia speak Serbian, they have islamised Serbian names, they use latin (or before Serbian cyrilic) letters. Oh yes, they dring slivovitz but not in Capitol Sarajevo where drink can be found only in sparse Croate-owned places.


494 posted on 03/12/2006 10:44:15 AM PST by kronos77 (Kosovo I Metohija - "Field of Blackbirds And Land of The Monastry" full official name.)
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To: A. Pole
"This is not finished. Serbs will have to accept the responsibility of the death of 200 000 of Bosnian Muslims, 100 000 of Croatians and 200 000 of Muslim Albanians."

Jeez, there you go again, just like the Yugoslavs after WWII, inflating numbers. Total number killed in Bosnia was somewhere between 90,000 and 100,000. In Croatia maybe 20,000. Kosovo less. So at most we are talking about less than 150,000 overall in all the "Balkan Wars" of the 1990s...

Not that this is not an outrage, but it is far less than the numbers being thrown around for political purposes by irresponsible people...

495 posted on 03/12/2006 10:48:12 AM PST by Al Simmons ("Only those are fit to live who do not fear to die" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: annalex
"With Slobo's defiance, the "court" in the Hague is permanently discredited and the Serb nation has grown a spine."

You might want to double-check that point of view with a sample of educated Serbians living in Serbia...few would hold such a view...

496 posted on 03/12/2006 10:50:30 AM PST by Al Simmons ("Only those are fit to live who do not fear to die" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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To: ThePythonicCow
>>>>>Where's the money?<<<<

Ask Douglas J. Feith.

497 posted on 03/12/2006 10:53:44 AM PST by DTA (never forget !)
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To: Al Simmons

You mean the part about the Hague or the part about the spine?

I don't know anyone in Serbia, but I checked with a Serb I know about the overall Slobo's role. We were in agreement.


498 posted on 03/12/2006 10:58:05 AM PST by annalex
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit
>>>>>Soros run the CIA?<<<<

No. Intel community feeds info to Soros for shady deals. Without inside info, Soros is dud. Perhaps one of the few investors who heavilly invested when dot gone craze was already over and lost billions.

And Soros do the dirty work for State Department if former Soviet Union and the Balkans.

Last but not least, he does dirty work stateside on his own (drug legalisation, abortion and euthanasia popularisation, Anti-Bush campaign). As well supports terrorists in Israel.

499 posted on 03/12/2006 11:05:08 AM PST by DTA (never forget !)
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To: Tommy-the-pissed-off-Brit
>>>>>Soros run the CIA?<<<<

No. Intel community feeds info to Soros for shady deals. Without inside info, Soros is dud. Perhaps one of the few investors who heavilly invested when dot gone craze was already over and lost billions.

And Soros do the dirty work for State Department if former Soviet Union and the Balkans.

Last but not least, he does dirty work stateside on his own (drug legalisation, abortion and euthanasia popularisation, Anti-Bush campaign). As well supports terrorists in Israel.

500 posted on 03/12/2006 11:05:12 AM PST by DTA (never forget !)
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