State Dept.: U.S. Hostage Tom Fox Killed

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[CyberAnt]

Well .. my post was a good msg anyway!

[Piedra79]

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

I may believe that this man was foolish for doing what he did, but I have to respect him for believing in something so much that he put his own life on the line.

[freepersup]

Their (CPT) mantra is... Get In The Way! Well, he got in the way, and he got smoked. Fairly straight forward lesson. He underestimated the heinous nature of the enemy (EVIL personified.)

[Semperfi.Ex.USMC]

that the muslims were the good guys and we were the bad guys...now he knows the truth....

I hope you're right, but I doubt it. I think he died of stupidity. Any person with half a brain knows you don't go into a war zone unless you have reason and support. He was just a liberal do-gooder who thinks these animals are human.

[floriduh voter]

Remember Nick Berg who was beheaded loved Islam per his dad. That was the beheading with picture and/or audio. It was on so much that I'd turn down the radio.

[Diligent]

"When they finally got there, Hussein wanted a thousand bucks from each. Then, he wanted them to be human shields at places like powerplants that were targets."

- - > "They didn't bargain on that, so they went back home."

Well...one smart thing they actually managed to do...

[WorkingClassFilth]

I don't believe that they (the church leadership) are naive. I believe they are communists. Years ago, I took a course on Marxism. The instructor was a high level communist involved in all sorts of pro-Cuba crap. One of his favorite stories was to talk about one of his friends, who, at that time, was the head of the National Council of Churches. The humor, for him, was that his friend could never concede that at the heart of Marxism was the bedrock of immutably materialist beliefs. This Professor thought it hugely funny that his friend kept trying to synthesize some kind of amalgamate between Marx and Jesus. My instructor thought that was the height of naivete, not that his friend was an active and committed communist in a cleric's collar but couldn't admit that his "faith" was a sham.

That, I believe, is far more the reality. This Mr. Fox knew exactly what he was about but it wasn't the Jesus of the Bible - it was his own radical cleric vision of utopia that he, and those like him, have pasted a picture of Jesus onto. Unfortunately, his opposite kook numbers believe in a radically different kind of utopia that calls for the murder of infidels - even if they are apostate Marxist infidels.

[WorkingClassFilth]

I have to respect him for believing in something so much that he put his own life on the line.

This line of thought is the same basis of Bill Mahr's statement of respect for the 911 terrorists.

[Piedra79]

Big difference....this did not plow a plane into a building killing thousands. He lived and died on a truly christian ideal and it puzzles me why so many so-called christians here would imply that he got his just reward.

[WorkingClassFilth]

He lived and died on a truly christian ideal and it puzzles me why so many so-called christians here would imply that he got his just reward.

What Christian ideal would that be?

If you look at his sponsor site, you'll find that these people have little or nothing in common with traditional Christianity, Christ or Scriptural directives.

Isolating actions as worthy of respect because of the idealism behind them is precisely what Mahr did and what he tried to explain ad infinitum.

[greasepaint]

when I first heard about these four kidnappings,
my thought was, this could hve been staged.

I still think so.

...
free lance diplomats, human shields, etc.
just giving aid and comfort to the enemy

[Cinnamon Girl]

Are any of the people on FR who insisted this guy and his group faked their own kidnapping now going to admit they were wrong? Or just pile on about how he deserved it.

[Piedra79]

Perhaps you would care to enlighten me as to how they don't have anything in common with Christ or Scriptural directives.

[boop]

Uh, I thought he "FIRMLY opposed all repression". Maybe like Saddam slaughtering hundreds of thousands of people, maybe? No. That was A-OK to Mr. Fox. If he had his way Hussein would still be filling up mass graves. Jesus said "turn the other cheek". He didn't say "help and abet enemies of your country slaughter innocents."

[Old_Mil]

You gotta feel bad for a guy who goes to Iraq to prove WE, the USA, are abusing the Al Qaeda terrorists in Iraq and he ends up like this. Like Elmer Fudd says, "It's a scwewy world."

There has to be a Darwin award in here somewhere.

[SpyGuy]

Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Traveling into a combat zone to disparage and disrupt your own nation's military service members, while simultaneously giving sympathetic aid and comfort to enemy COMBATANTS, does not fit ANY definition of "peacemaker," biblical or otherwise.

I have to respect him for believing in something so much that he put his own life on the line.

By that argument, you must also respect suicide bombers. Or the 9/11 hijackers. Or "Rat Boy" (Jihad Johnny Walker Lindh). How about spies and traitors within our military and government who aid our enemies because they believe America is evil?

[Steve_Seattle]

"It's unfortunate that he was killed, but I do not consider him guiltless in his own death. In fact, I would consider him a yet another fool who got what he unthinkingly sought."

He reminds me of the preacher in the 1950s "War of the Worlds" who says, "They [the Martians] are God's creatures, just like us," as he walks across the field towards the Martians, holding up a crucifix, I think. Of course, he is immediately incinerated.

[Steve_Seattle]

This guy clearly took the position that the USA is the problem in Iraq. If there is any record of him going to Iraq before the war to protest Saddam's regime, Saddam's tortures, Saddam's murders, I'll apologize. But as I see it, the guy was trying to make peace with the enemies of civilization; he was an educated man, and I am not going to make excuses for him by calling him a fool. Keep in mind, his fate will be the fate of all of us if we adopt his point of view.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."

This man was NOT a "peacemaker." He was a man who made common cause with terrorists; he tried to make a deal with the devil, with the usual consequences of such a pact.

[Nickey]

On each death of American, drive THREE Guantanomo terrorists through streets on rope to car. This will teach them about respecting America.