Posted on 03/09/2006 3:42:02 PM PST by Eaglewatcher
Nothing funny about it ... it's a refund of taxes paid.That's a lie. The check would be mailed before or even if NO taxes were paid. In fact the Fairtax would pay out more money for negative taxes than "the current system"...
Though you'll be first in line, more hand outs ultimately results in more hands out.
That's easy. The SSA is the agency best equipped to handle the wire transfers, check printing, and SSA number processing and verifications involved.
The mechanism of sending the refunds by wire is pretty simple and quite inexpensive ... many if not most SSA payments are presently handled this way.
Nonsense, Looey. The presently system has refunds after the April 15 fiasco ... but of course those were from tax overpayments withheld by the government and not just a refund of taxes voluntarily paid as is the prebate.
It's no lie at all, but a statement of fact. the prebate is a refund of taxes paid. If if comes a month in advance, so much the better - it's still a refund calculated over any reasonable time frame such as a year.
By all means, try that two card business when the FairTax becomes law, Looey. We'll come and bring cigarettes to you and Nightie both (he's in the same cell block but on a different fraud charge).
Of course, you'll have to pay for the smokes, but they'll be cheaper than today even including the FairTax.
States and businesses will never collect an UnFair Tax for the government on top of existing sales taxes.
"The legislation calls for elimination ofthe IRS, the income tax ANDthe 16th amendment.No it doesn't."
Well, Looey, yes it does - you figure it out ... from HR25:
"(f) Findings Relating to Repeal of Present Federal Tax System- Congress further finds that the 16th amendment to the United States Constitution should be repealed."
BTW, I'm sure you're tickled pink to know that HR25 now has 52 cosponsors - and gowing ...
Thanx much for the link ... good stuff!
"Go ahead. Name names. It's better than throwing innuendos around."
(Is there an echo in here?)
That's easy. The SSA is the agency best equipped to handle the wire transfers, check printing, and SSA number processing and verifications involved. The mechanism of sending the refunds by wire is pretty simple and quite inexpensive ... many if not most SSA payments are presently handled this way.Treasury handles Social Security check printing and wire transfers, just like they do income tax refund checks. The government doesn't give a department or agency a task because they are capable of handling it, they give it a task because it fits within their mission. The Social Security Administration's mission is "to advance the economic security of the nation's people through compassionate and vigilant leadership in shaping and managing America's Social Security programs."
Be that as it may ... the SSA is also the one best equipped to handle the matter.
But it's nice you can answer your own question - but why ask it in the first place if you knew the answer???
Be that as it may ... the SSA is also the one best equipped to handle the matter.Yup. They're the one best equipped to "managing America's Social Security programs."
Sorry I have been lax in responding.
Why, why, why do you guys have this paranoia about the pre-bate? Do you have the same paranoia about the EIC or the child tax credit? What is your problem? The prebate isn't a gift, it is a prefund of taxes paid. It is YOUR money. The EIC is NOT. Get over it.
Typical. lewie thinks that people get rich BECAUSE of the income tax. Say hello to your friends lewie, your friends in the IRS and on K Street. After all this time you know good and well that the income tax is a hindrance on wealth creation. It really doesn't matter what you think of the FT. The income tax is a poison. But not to you, not to you.
Yeah. Someone else is always to blame. Isn't that the mantra of the K-Streeters lewie? Isn't that how they get their congressmen to vote? "We'll make sure your constituents know that it isn't their fault."
So let's make the tax code a social code. Let's make those who are actually making money be the pariahs of our society and bleed them dry as they are creating wealth for themselves and their employees.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist, lewie, to see that you have not, nor will you ever be, a productive member of society. Every post and comment you make is indicative of a leech whose very existence depends upon the power of the government to tax my balls off.
A pox upon your house. You are nothing more than a slave and trustee to the very institution that you obviously profit from.
If you have anything more to say I would suggest that you preface it with: "I am a servant of the income tax and I think that you all should bow down before me."
Why, why, why do you guys have this paranoia about the pre-bate? Do you have the same paranoia about the EIC or the child tax credit? What is your problem? The prebate isn't a gift, it is a prefund of taxes paid. It is YOUR money. The EIC is NOT. Get over it.Sure I'm getting my money - but that's not the point. The point is that there are other people who are getting my money too.
". It is not anti-tax.
. It will raise the same revenue as the current system. "
Two reasons not to support it.
The prebate isn't a gift, it is a prefund of taxes paid.Would you trust your investments with anyone speaking to you with that kind of idiocy?
Do you have the same paranoia about the EICYou're the only one paranoid. I thought the plan was to rid us of the income tax, not emulate it.
thanks lew. Your posts are reason enough for anyone on the fence to support the fair tax. You know, the enemy of my enemy is my friend sort of thing? It isn't enough for you to gain some sort of a thumbprint on this earth by posting nonsense on this board but you insist on arguments that are nothing more than third grade insults. Next time the rest of the intelligentsia here wants to hear from you we'll jostle your bassinet.
I know it's hard for you to understand but I stand by what I said. My comparison had to do with the pre-bate vs. the EITC. The pre-bate is the equivalent of OUR money. The EITC is wealth re-distribution. You obviously don't worry about that because, what, just one of your deals is worth 200,000 dollars? Isn't that what you said? LOL!!!
Thank-you for being so humble as to share you vision with us here. Obviously someone who makes a grillion a year has to force himself to take the time. LOL!
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